Posted on Dec 14, 2020
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This is the second time I’ve gotten reprimanded for this situation. I was walking with a binder in my hands, and a mug in the other hand. I walked past a CSM and a CPT, greeted both as I was unable to salute. CSM stopped me and demanded that I drop everything to salute the CPT. AR 600-25 states that I am not required to render a salute if I am carrying articles with both hands. What is the right answer?
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SPC John Coleman
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Mug isn’t important here, hold the binder and mug in your left hand.
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SPC Paul Hayward
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transfer everything into your left hand and render a salute, if it's not possible give the courtesy of a good morning/afternoon/evening/day to the officer and continue on your way, you do not have to drop everything and salute, but you do, if possible, transfer items to your left hand and render the salute
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1SG Vet Technician
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The regulation does state that you are not required to salute when your hands are occupied. But the spirt of the rule centers around situations like carrying boxes or equipment, or even coming out of the px with several bags.

When you are not giving a salure because you are carrying a mug, the perception is that you care more about the mug then the courtesy.

If you find yourself in this situation often, try tucking the binder under your left arm, or carry a backpack.
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PO2 Gilbert Moore
PO2 Gilbert Moore
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Concur. Maybe an underway Navy ship is another world, but when we were at sea, an E2 Fireman Apprentice mess puppy carrying a 50# box of slider patties down a passageway didn't salute anybody and had right of way against anybody short of the skipper.

And the skipper would get TF outta the way too if he wanted his people's respect.

GWM, MR2, 85-89
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Capt Edward Egan
Capt Edward Egan
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In addition, aboard ship a ship's officer is saluted only the first time you encounter him on any day, the CO excepted.
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SGT Christopher Hayden
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What you do is act like you're making a big effort to make your hand available, apologize while doing this. Any good Officer worth his weight will tell you not to worry about it and let you go about your doing, thus making the grumpy old CSM happy too.
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1SG James Kelly
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thus making the grumpy old CSM happy too.
I resemble that remark.
Thank you Mrs. Malaprop.
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SSG Samuel Kermon
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Rule of thumb: Keep Your Right Hand Empty. Binder tucked under left arm and coffee in left hand.
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SPC Cathy Goessman
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Tuck the binder under your arm, switch the coffee to your left hand, and salute. If that isn't possible the CSM is incorrect. Greeting of the day is sufficient according to regs. But we all know some people enjoy their firm belief in "can add to but not take away" where they enforce BS.
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SSG Brian G.
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Whatever CSM that was, is ate up. If you are walking and there are items carried in both hands you are not required to stop and put them down or even shift them to salute. If you have something in your right hand but nothing in your left then you are required to shift it to your left and salute. Other than that? Carry on.
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Maj Wayne Crist
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A mug? Get your head up, you put yourself in a stupid position. if it was your second time you should have learned. Can't handle a binder and a mug in one hand? I have and render the salute.
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SGM Willie Sanderson
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As a SGM myself the first thing I would ask you would have been why were you carrying a mug in your hand if you were outside moving from point A to B. The next comment would be to put the binder under your left arm and the mug in your left hand and salute the deserving officer with your now free hand. Then you and I would meet several evenings each week until ifelt comfortable you understood the purpose of rendering respect to the position the Captain holds. Its not some sort of game.
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SSG Douglas Shaffer
SSG Douglas Shaffer
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Plus, I would have a binder and a cup, so that he knew exactly how to adjust those items to render a salute. Corrective training is an NCO's most powerful tool.
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Pretty simple... Adapt, Overcome or Improvise... In this case Improvise. Transfer the junk to your left hand and respect the mans Rank!
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