Do they now ask you in Basic Training if this is not what you maybe want and to raise your hand? And then you can get out?

I think they do this. Then they smoke the crap out of whoever raises their hand

They do this in basic training sometimes. It's a trap though. The guys who raised their hands wished they hadn't.

Separation for lack of motivation or failure to adapt typically don’t happen until after the conclusion of week 2 of training.

With that said, I’ve had quite a few try to quit before then and unless there was a medical or psychological issue, they kept training.

If a trainee refuses to train, that’s different. Some try to talk them in to giving it a try but if they continued to refuse, they sat on the sidelines during training until their chapter for separation was completed.

It is of course, a volunteer army. If you want to quit in training, I have no interest in sending to support my brothers and sisters on the line so you can quit on them.

So if a trainee said those magic words to me, “I refuse to train”, I let them be. No longer my problem.

It isn’t quite raising the hand, but they weren’t penalized beyond knowing they quit and could not “unquit”. Usually watching their class graduate before they get to leave.

To say this is false...I have personal experience to justify. I once heard this as well....Long ago in a galaxy far far away when they still used clay tablets and papyrus for written communications. In Basic, I wanted to quit. I told Drill Sergeant Murphy that much. I was not allowed to quit. He did not let me quit. There was no quitting.

That is a joke. What have we come to In the old days 59-66 once you signed the papers and got sworn in The Military owed your Butt. You went to the Brig or Stockade before they would let you out until your enlistment was up. Even if you dropped out of pilot training or OCS. You became an enlisted man until your enlistment was up. Semper Fi.

They give you the option in reception. Ask you over and over if you're sure. There were a few people who got discharged before even making it to the actual start of BCT. Once I actually started basic and left reception, the drills constantly asked us who wanted to quit; just to let him know, he'd tell first sergeant and we'd start the paperwork. He usually did this during runs, but I never heard anyone respond to him.

What’s the big deal hair grows back going thru basic you don’t have time to groom your hair.

Gee, when I went to bootcamp Great Lakes my Company Commander asked everybody if they would like to go to Happy Hour. Dumb ass me, I said yes. An hour of exercise with an M1 Garrand, didn't know that before hand and never went there again. He also told us that he was not our mother. His job was to break us down to our smallest molecule, then build us up to his image, aprox. 5'4". I made the mistake of pointing out that I was 6'4". He rode my ass like you wouldn't believe. This was 1975, do the math. It's only gotten easier to graduate.

Listen my brothers and sisters in the Army, Marines, Airforces, Navy, and Cost Guard. I am an old SSG Army type. Hey I think the us like to see their soldiers well groomed and good looking ones. Sorry you can have whatever you want when you are in Delta Forces hey as long you still here in RA you will shave to look sharp and loved ok.

Umm, yeah, even back in my day...Arrive Reception...Herded like cattle into the auditorium....Watched Apocolypse Now....Got yelled at alot....Amnesty Period....Reception Crap....Sleep....Repeat next day with new movie....Sleep...Repeat day 3, again with new movie....Report to BT Unit....Packed into cattle cars like sardines....DS gets on and shouts.."Get the FUCK off my cattle car...TOUCH ME and DIE!....Low and behold he's standing in the whole doorway....So he got touched....Ground into the sand pit/dufflebag drag for 4 hours straight....Assigned PLTDS's....Amnesty period again....Then a "NICE" chat with the DS who then asks if anyone thinks they can/cannot handle it in BT....many hands went up....And AWAAAYYYY we went on our first 8 hours get your assed smoked session....NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE.....They all dropped shit scores or failed something or other on purpose to get the boot. You couldn't JUST get out because you wanted to....

Army gone soft I guess....

But then, I had DS's, 1Sgt's, Plt LDR's, and CO's, and Bn Cmdr's who were from Nam', a few from Honduras Missions, many from Ranger BN Ops that were still classified....They didn't allow shit, and used old school training to keep mofo's in line.....We didn't get any "soft" treatments....It was DO or DIE everyday.....