Posted on May 5, 2016
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SGT Kathi Prato
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I understand the Supreme Court's ruling on it, but understanding doesn't equal agreeing with it.

The flag is a symbol of our freedom and it is held most dear to those who have volunteered to fight to protect it. Anyone who has done that will cringe at the mere thought of someone desecrating the flag. It's all perspective. I had this conversation with a friend who is also a veteran and she said to me "The flag is a piece of cloth... that's all. Someone burning that doesn't take away the pride I had in defending it".... brought a new perspective for me; but it still makes me sick.
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SFC Wade W.
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No, but yes. Personally, I find it very offensive. Constitutionally I understand why it is legal. Passing a law to make it illegal would never pass through the SCOTUS.
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Maj John Bell
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Sgt Joe LaBranche - SCOTUS rightly established that not all speech is protected (i.e. "Fire" in a crowded theater). But burning the flag is protected. It isn't truly free speech if we ban the things that offend us to the core of our being.

The Flag is only a symbol, but it is a MAGNIFICENT symbol that I feel represents all the best hopes and aspirations of a free and self-determinant people who have sacrificed Mothers and Fathers, Daughters and Sons, Sisters and Brothers to preserve that freedom and self-determination. So people can burn it, and I will be as hostile to them as the law and my sense of decorum allows.
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CPO Frank Coluccio - actually that law was struck down, as was the follow on Flag Protection Act of 1989, which was passed to try and dodge the issues with the first case. But that also was ruled unconstitutional by the SCOTUS in 1990.
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CPO Frank Coluccio
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LTC (Join to see) - Thank you for pointing that out. I hate chasing links down on my phone, so just clicked on the law from the Cornell Law page.
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(7/2022) SFC Wade W. CAPT Kevin B. Alan K. Re federal protections, w'e just had federally protected RoevWade overturned by SCOTUS— maybe the right to burn the flag is coming up on the chopping block.
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Yes, it must. Doesn't mean we have to like it, but our system depends on these freedoms, even when taken to the extreme expression of flag burning,. Ironically, burning is also the proper way to retire and dispose of a flag out of service.
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SPC Brian Mason
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No. It's not 'freedom of speech'. That flag represents our entire country, good or bad. I love my country in all it's greatness and it's faults. It's not perfect and wasn't mean to be. We have Amendments to our Constitution. Intelligent people can show disdain for the government, similar body, or issue without doing this.
There are countless soldiers who have spent parts of their life, even entire lives, or losing it to protect our way of life. So people can peacefully and violently protest. To protect the people who love and hate us. We do so much even though there is often a negative stigma attached to military and Veterans. They insult the countless family and loved ones of our soldiers when they do this.
I can guarantee without our military, another country will take us over. In some countries we are hated and I'm sure they'd like nothing more to end our country and take it over. True enemies may seem like friends b/c they will never tell you their true intentions. It's very sad b/c the people on this planet are not united.
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SGT David Emme
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No I do not agree the 1st amendment protects this right or ever should. The flag represents the foundation of our constitutional rights. You destroy the foundation, you destroy the rights it claims to give. When I went to school, I was taught the red in the stripes represent the blood shed to found our country, the white the rightness or purity of our cause. I do not believe you will find this in many other countries-where the desecration of our national symbol that purchased our freedom is a protected form of expression...but only in America. If there was ever a cause for a constitutional amendment-restoring the sacredness to our flag would be one reason to amend the constitution!
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I do not agree with folks that want to burn the flag, even though they might have the right to do so. I also will never associate with fools.
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SSG William Jones
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I believe that it's controversial even to regard flag burning as an example of free speech. For starters, the law can't label and protect a limitless variety of conduct as "speech" whenever the person engaged in such conduct intends to express an idea. Only reckless or accidental acts are not intended by that person to have a certain effect. Second, the purpose of free speech protection is the advancement of knowledge or truth. Free speech allows the value and credibility of different ideas to be publicly discussed, rejected, accepted or further developed, but flag burning doesn't contribute to any dialogue or exchange of ideas. It's the opposite of rationality and cogent debate.
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Capt Michael Greene
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It's the law. I agree with it. Desecrating the flag is free speech.

I don't like it, but it is more important to defend the constitution than to defend the flag.
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SFC Wade W.
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It isn't the law. The law says that you can't desecrate the flag! 18 U.S. Code § 700 - Desecration of the flag of the United States is a written law. It has never been wholly overturned nor even piecemeal overturned. The SCOTUS only said that the 1st Amendment allows for certain things. But, just like you can't yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater or event center, the 1st Amendment isn't absolute. Perhaps we can have Congress write a new law about desecrating the United States Flag and see if it will pass the SCOTUS's muster. I think it's time to try again.
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I would have to agree with this statement. I think those who don't have any idea of what it means to have the freedoms they have because of those who have some and all should be made to serve at least some time in the service.
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Sgt Joe LaBranche
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Unless you been there and done that, people won't appreciate what the flag represents to use that have fought for it, SFC Octavia Robinson-Wilson! Thank you for your service!
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Sgt. Joe LaBranche, It is definitely my pleasure to serve this great Nation!
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PO1 Tony Holland
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I would prefer that they get community service -- I wouldn't want them disgracing the uniform as well.
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MSgt Brian Potvin
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Yes...the First Amendment does protect that right. It's disgusting that someone would want to burn our Flag. However, people are free to do things that we think are disgusting. I am also free to let them know that I disagree with what they are doing.
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