Posted on Sep 21, 2015
Sgt Tom Cunnally
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Dr Carson doubled down today with his Muslim comments & that has the Liberal Media Talking Head's Hair on Fire. They are pushing for him to withdraw from the race for president..
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SFC Stephen King
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Dr. Carson expressed his opinion and the media is on the hunt. The Donald has no filter and they just let it go.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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SFC Stephen King you are not allowed to point out the double standard. Shame on you. Please report for indoctrination.

Seriously, I think that they let Donald Trump go because they still don't take him seriously as a candidate. IF he is still leading when they get close to the convention, then anything he says will be scrutinized. Until then he can say and do anything and nobody will call him on it.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - "Ben Carson doubled down on his anti-Muslim comments Monday, even as a growing number of prominent groups and lawmakers called for the retired neurosurgeon to exit the 2016 race."

I don't know who are the prominent groups and lawmakers??... We have two Muslims in congress so they are passed but not sure who else is..??
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MSgt Jim Wolverton
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I think that at this point in time, he's right. Islam runs counter to our government, it does. As many have said before, Islam is a religion/form of government/lifestyle that isn't compatible with our laws and form of government, no matter what many liberals may think. Why was it even brought up? Maybe someday we'll have a Muslim in office, but that time isn't now and IMO, the opinion of the majority here in the US would have to completely change how we feel about the religion. It doesn't represent the majority, our culture, or our values as Americans. What is next? I for one am tired of the new effort to cater to everyone because it's the PC thing to do, majority still rules last time I checked.
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Did you expect anything less?
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I disagree sincerely with Dr. Carson. His views on who can and should be president are in direct contrast with Article 6 of the US Constitution, our governing document.

The last 20 words of Article 6 read, "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

A Republican who I have a ton of respect for, and who, to this day I would vote for if his name were on the ballot, made a very profound statement regarding this very topic during the campaign of John McCain. I've linked it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=111&v=dYELqbZAQ4M
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Capt Walter Miller
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What an idiot. He is running for president but he doesn't know that the Constitution allows of -no- religious test for office?

Idiots like Carson I get.

What I don't get is why -anyone- would think he should be in the race, let alone vote for him, or Trump either.

Before you consider the Trump/Carson ticket, watch the recent movie, "Lincoln' with Daniel Day Lewis. Lincoln was a shrewd master politician. Watch how he works to get the 13th amendment passed. It ain't brain surgery and it ain't the art of the deal that Trump is familiar with.

And it is a great movie too.

Yeah, I know a lot of people on RP will have the attitude, "Oh geez, Lincoln", for the same reason they have the attitude: "Oh geez, Obama."



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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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"I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that,” the retired neurosurgeon said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” creating an outcry from the leading Muslim civil liberties group in the nation."

At least the good Dr Carson had the right stuff to make a politically incorrect statement. How many have Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, or Bernie Sanders made on this subject???



I believe Dr Carson has to have known that Sir but he said he would not want to advocate a Muslim as our president. It could be that because there are many Republicans who agree with him. And with all due respect so do many here at RP & no way would I call them "idiots"...just folks who are not afraid to speak their minds, I guess??

I would not want to advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation either.. But then again there are some Christians I would not advocate for president either ..I don't think I am an idiot yet but maybe just an Old Fart who is sick of seeing Liberals look for something to tear a man down ad nausea....& with that Goodnight and Good luck!!
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Capt Walter Miller
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - He made a statement he shouldn't have made and didn't have to make.

Which is how you know he should never be president.

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The way politicians answer a question like, “Why did you slaughter wild geese on your last hunting trip?” is to say, “I think it is important to remember that wild geese are not an endangered species.”

What has been maddening in the last 15 years or so is to have a politician dodge a tough question and the questioner/moderator not ask the most obvious follow up questions. Argh!

Recently though, when Cheney blew off a question about the Iranians going from -0- centrifuges to 5,000 on the Bush/Cheney watch, and Cheney said it was on Obama’s watch – the FOX News guy said again – “No that was all prior to 2009.”

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Do You Agree That The "Liberal Media" Is Going After Dr Carson & Thinks He Ought to Drop Out?
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I had hopes for him, but his religious "requirement" has me thinking he's not the best man for the job. As POTUS you are to defend the constitution and use it as a reference point to govern ALL Americans, not just the ones that fit your religious views. With what he said, he's becoming discriminatory and grouping all Muslims as one. Not all of them practice Sharia law, so they get punished too? As far as his dropping out, maybe someone with cooler minds can have a one on one with him and show him the mistakes of his comments, and how inflammatory and uneducated they are. He's not a dumb person and that could be what makes him better in the end. If not see ya Herman Cain pt2
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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I think I know what the Good Doctor meant to say but may not have phrased it properly.
He may try again or else he is going to be clobbered by the Liberal Media Talking Heads.. They all smell blood in the water but hope it may be their bad breath blowing back at them.
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SSG Warren Swan
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - I know he's far from stupid, but to use the mention of religion in government is wrong. I hope someone does have a talk with him and he rephrases it so that he can still say what he meant, but it isn't discriminatory either. If he said Catholics or Jews aren't in concert with American ideals, we wouldn't even have this conversation. He'd be out of the race that second. And he wouldn't make it on the speaking circuit either. He's be worse than Palin ever could be
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SSG Warren Swan - I think Dr Carson is hung up on Sharia Law ..???
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SSG Warren Swan
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - He is. I said other religions as examples and what would have happened had he used them in place of Muslim.
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Ben Carson has the right to say what he feels, even if it is irresponsible. And the media ("liberal" or not) has a right to voice their opinion as well. If Carson's remarks carry water among certain portions of the population, it'll be interesting to see how much traction there is with the public at large.

Personally, I don't the media is "liberal" so much as they are "mercenary". They went after Bill Clinton like a pack of dogs on a wounded deer; and a truly "liberal" media would not have paid so much attention to the Birthers conspiracy and treated all the anti-Obama stuff as serious news items. They give anti-vaxxers and climate change deniers a spotlight as well. What they are motivated by isn't ideology so much as stirring or creating controversy, because that makes money for them.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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I think you make a good point ..but why doesn't the Mercenary Media ask Hillary, Bernie, or O'Malley to drop out of the campaign for their political incorrect comments about Muslims, the Military, Republicans & etc & etc???
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SGT Christopher Churilla
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He said if a Muslim candidate put his religion over the Constitution, if he attempted to turn America into a theocracy, then he would not support him, and neither would I. A President can certainly push his political agenda, but not a religious one.

Got to love that First Amendment.

I remember a similar concern was raised when JFK was running for President; people were concerned he would turn into a puppet for the Vatican. He stated that if there was ever a conflict between his faith and his duties of office, he would resign.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - Of course. The liberal media will purposely go after anybody running against Queen Hillary. Have you ever seen the media (except for Fox) ask a Democrat candidate anything but softball questions. Have you ever seen them ask "gotcha" questions, like the one asked Ben Carson? Of course not...
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - Yes... I saw that, too. Two points -- First, DWS is not a candidate, although she is the head of the Democrat Party. Second, I believe the intent was to have her actually explain the difference, not show the country that there is none. When she choked with Matthews, they gave her the opportunity to recover with Tapper. I think they were all shocked that she did not.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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COL Jean (John) F. B. - Yes Sir but I have seen Debbie Wasserman Schultz make some outlandish comments and the Media seems to give her a pass.. She is the DNC Chair and probably in a job way above her pay grade..
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - Totally agree... :-)
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COL Jean (John) F. B. - Thanx Sir ..
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SrA Matthew Knight
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Of course they want him to drop out. Right now I think the liberals are banking on Trump winning the GOP because that is the best chance they would have of winning the election where as if Dr. Carson makes it the Republicans will have a great shot at winning. Anything they can do to take out the serious candidates that they know pose the greatest threat to their own victory.

It's sort of the same reason I honestly hope Hillary wins on the Democratic side because I think that if it came down to her and Carson enough Democrats would end up siding with Carson over her that we would almost be guaranteed a victory. Unfortunately Sanders is really starting to make ground for himself and I personally believe he poses the greatest threat to us on the Republican side right now because of all of the promises he is trying to make. Whether or not he could act on half of what he says is the big question but it's one that many that support him just blindly refuse to ask.
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Go on with your bad self Mr. Carson. Say what mean and mean what you say. He said and many people think it, but are to afraid to say what he said.
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Did you see the actual interview, and what he said? I'll see if I can find it.

IMO. Seems the Media picks and chooses certain quotes and runs with it....go figure

*disclaimer*. I have no opinion on what he said. Just tired of Media spin...lol
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - Ok but consider this ..most young voters are very liberal about politics, religion, race, and sexuality. But you have areas in this country where older voters don't share that view. As a matter of fact it is just the complete opposite especially the religious right.

I grew up in a very rough Irish neighborhood in Boston and they all believed there are two kinds of people in this world those who are Irish and those who wish they were Irish.
That was a long time ago so I thought things have probably changed but recent visits back to Boston to see all my old high school buds told me differently..
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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Sgt Tom Cunnally - What it really comes down to is this: Who is actually going to perform their civic duty, and vote? I vote in every election. I don't vote in primaries because I am not a D or R and thusly not eligible to vote in the primaries. I vote my conscience. I may vote D, I may vote R, but usually I find myself voting for a third party candidate. Someone whose platform is about our constitution. In the last election, a large number of those young voters turned out and voted. In 2008 it was the same thing, a large number of young liberal voters turned out because they were excited about Barrack Obama. That is not going to be the case next year. Hillary is not exciting to the young voters. They are not going to go out of their way to vote for her like they did for Obama. Should make for an interesting election cycle at any rate.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - I lot of millennials (18 -34)..who I know are not interested at all in this campaign for president, & are not even registered to vote. When I was a student we had the Young Democrats, John Birch Society, Conservative Political Groups on campus. We campaigned for candidates ; had politicians who visited the campus and we were really into politics. But today you don't see that anymore. Students are just not into politics and only interested in getting good grades and courses they need to graduate. Sports are big on campus but politics are not. I bet if Trump visited BC there would only be a few attendees and they would be heckling and insulting him.. But they loved Jim Cramer who visited BC a few years ago and had a packed auditorium to hear him talk about investing... Times they are a changing Steve..not too sure but probably for the better.
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SFC (Join to see) Yes, it was definitely a media spin on what he really said. Though the words "I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that" were said, directly prior to this statement, he stated, "I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it's inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem".

Then he followed it up with explaining his concern was with Sharia Law and that it was his belief that it requires Muslims to force their religion on others, subjugate women, kill homosexuals, non-believers, etc. and that these principles go against the founding principles of the Constitution, and therefor, unless they publicly denounced Sharia Law, he would not support them.

Here is the full interview the Muslim references start at the 8:00 mark: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/ben-carson-the-full-meet-the-press-interview [login to see] 22
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