Do You Agree With Obama That We Can Have Relations With Iran?

Sgt Tom Cunnally - Legacy? At what expense?

MCPO Roger Collins - I think he may not want the Iran Deal as his legacy because he knows it is very fragile and could fall apart based on the Iranian Hard Liners and Supreme Leader who is scary

Sgt Tom Cunnally - It will be his legacy just l Obamacare is. We will see how the Historians' view his actions at some point in the future. I just hope the Israelis are around to read them.

MCPO Roger Collins - Netanyahu addressed this today in the UN...

You haven't quoted him to that effect - that he wants normal relations with Iran.

The treaty recently signed with Iran -is- historic.

Some points:

1. It wasn't done on Hillary Clinton's watch as SecState. As SecState she accomplished almost nothing.
2. Someone was saying that the Senate makes treaties. I don't think this is a treaty. It is effectively an executive agreement. A succeeding president doesn't have to honor it.
3. The Iranians must figure that a follow on president will honor the agreement -- that is to say a Democratic president.
4. No Republican can win a national election.

That said, did you see what the state of Alabama is doing?

"State announces 31 driver license offices will close, including 2 in north Alabama"

http://whnt.com/2015/09/30/alea-announces-driver-license-office-closures-includes-two-in-north-alabama/

Coupled with laws requiring photo ID's to vote, this will make it much more difficult to register to vote.

This tends to support my number 4 above.

Walt

MAJ (Join to see) There is nothing wrong with diplomatically isolating them. When they are ready to be adults and act like adults they can come knocking. Until them we have no business dealing with these radicals.

SGT William Howell It just doesn't work. And makes war more likely.

As a Cold War Soviet analyst, there were many times that without diplomatic connections we would have ended up in war with the USSR.

Iran does not have the capabilities of the old Soviet Union, but give them enough money and the go ahead to process nuclear material and they will be a true threat to the US. They are not capable of waging war on the US other than meddling in our ability to stabilize the Middle East. We need to insure that they cannot become a nuclear power and that means continuing sanctions until they can act like something other than a bunch of religious nuts talking a stand to wipe out other countries.

President Hassan Rouhani addressed this in his speech before the UN Assembly but I could not understand what he was talking about.. He claims he wants better relations with the West with a big smile on his face but his boss Khomeini told him to wipe away that smile .. I think Khomeini calls all the shots and Rouhani is just a puppet on a string being pulled by the Hard Liners who really rule Iran.. They will never forgive us for letting the Shah receive treatment for cancer just before our embassy was seized in Tehran.. But Obama to his credit thinks we can have a relationship with Tehran.. I think Kerry has been giving it his best shot...

Sgt Tom Cunnally - I disagree with with the assessment on us being able to have a relationship with Iran. No amount of wishful thinking can change the facts on the ground that as you pointed out the hardliners do not want to change. I wish the situation was different but it is not.

The link doesn't suggest that President Obama expects 'normal' relations with Iran or even wants them.

Walt

Capt Walter Miller - What does Obama want??

Capt Walter Miller - Probably will never happen if the Iranian Supreme Leader says "NO".....which is likely to happen as you know

Ummm..... Sgt Cunnally, if you had read the article -you- published, you would know that no one is suggesting that we will have 'normal relations with Iran any time in the foreseeable future.

Walt

Capt Walter Miller Obama has said. " A constructive relationship with Iran could be a byproduct of the deal to limit its nuclear program, but it won’t happen immediately. If at all & etc"

Capt Walter Miller - WASHINGTON – More than 35 years since the American embassy in Tehran was besieged, US President Barack Obama has signaled that a renewed US presence in Iran is possible – should Iran choose to permanently curb its nuclear ambitions.

Capt Walter Miller -
OAK BLUFFS, Mass. — President Barack Obama says a constructive relationship with Iran could be a byproduct of the deal to limit its nuclear program, but it won’t happen immediately. If at all.

Obama told CNN in an interview airing Sunday that Iran’s “nuclear problem” must be dealt with first. He said the agreement reached last month by the U.S. and five other world powers to remove crippling economic sanctions on Iran in exchange for restrictions on its nuclear program achieves that goal “better than any alternative.”

Republican lawmakers largely disagree with the president’s assessment that the deal blocks Iran’s path to a nuclear weapon, as do some of Obama’s own Democrats.



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/obama-says-improved-relations-iran-possible/



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/05/text-obama-gives-a-speech-about-the-iran-nuclear-deal/

Geez.... can you -quote- President Obama to the effect you suggest?

Walt

Capt Walter Miller - " A constructive relationship with Iran could be a byproduct of the deal to limit its nuclear program, but it won’t happen immediately"

Obama says improved relations with Iran are possible]]

WASHINGTON – More than 35 years since the American embassy in Tehran was besieged, US President Barack Obama has signaled that a renewed US presence in Iran is possible – should Iran choose to permanently curb its nuclear ambitions.

“I never say never, but I think these things have to go in steps,” Obama said of the possibility, in an interview with National Public Radio. The president was responding to a question on Iran following his decision to open an embassy in Havana, Cuba, after 50 years of frozen relations.

Capt Walt Miller.......We like to be called the "Leader of the free world".. But with Obama who doesn't know what is going on in the Arab World we now are not leaders but followers..