Posted on Apr 17, 2018
Do you believe it is ok for active service members to degrade the POTUS on RP?
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I have seen where many veterans have been making degrading remarks about the President of the United States. However, I also have seen threads where actively serving members, verified by RP, are making disparaging remarks.
Is this thought of as a safe space where military justice does not matter?
Is this thought of as a place where military members think they can exercise their first amendment rights?
Is this thought of as a safe space where military justice does not matter?
Is this thought of as a place where military members think they can exercise their first amendment rights?
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Active duty need to be held to the standards of the UCMJ. Either serve your Commander in Chief or hit the road.
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To answer the tactfully Go back and read your oath of enlistment The answer is in it. As for Retired No one has released me of my oath. The rest I would say need to let their decision be the guide. Now for safe places LOL nothing is absolutely safe.
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If RP is a quote, unquote Safe Space that can be used by prior or actively serving military to disparage the CINC, then I don't want to be a part of it! So, suck it up buttercup!
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If you are bashing your Commander in Chief, take off the uniform and find somewhere to work where you can live that sort of life. I don't want to hear or see insubordinate behavior, and if you try to hold me hostage to your weaknesses, I'll be more than happy to turn you in. "My Ship, My Shipmate, Myself". Always in that order.
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CWO3 Bryan Luciani
I served 5 Presidents. I learned by being there and watching people play the 1st Amendment game. They all lost. We are a mixed culture of warriors. That is plenty hard to manage already. Politics are divisive and in most cases fact-less. Focus on your job.
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Despite my complete contempt for the last holder of the presidency, I was very careful to refrain from talking bad about him in public. I expect the same from others with regards to President Trump.
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Agreed. I didn't like Pres. Obama's policies, but I still maintained my respect for the office and did not bash him in any way while he was in office.
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Definitely NOT ok, Sir. I believe that Veterans are completely entitled to exercise their 1st Amendment. For the rest of us, in my opinion, the professional, and intelligent thing to do, is to keep our political opinions to ourselves.
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I have no problem with being critical, but some of the lame stuff that gets posted from really sketchy sources just shows a pure hate.
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I don't think it is right- after all there are regulations in place for active duty personnel concerning this. It seems like many things folks blur the lines between what they want to say and what they can say- This is more or less a public forum, reaching out not only to Active duty and Vets but these showing interest in joining the service. So to my mind there is no difference between posting here and standing in the street yelling. If Active duty did that, they very well would be facing UCMJ punishment. As we should have learned in the service Active duty have "abridged" rights and throwing rocks at the CoC all the way up to the POTUS is forbidden. When you and I were in Sir, this was drummed into our heads every time we turned around and particularly during election time.
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COL (Join to see)
It just seems that since the second Bush administration, with the media being so vocal with its bias, it has become so much easier to jump on the bandwagon of criticizing and degrading the POTUS.
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Without a doubt-No. I do believe some allowances should be made for the fact that many members of RP are long-since EOS'd, and may be both leaders in civil society, if not politics. That said, I think it behooves those of us in the private sector to remember that we show our former ranks here and are viewed by members of the serving Armed Forces.
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SPC Mike Davis
We show our former rank because it is automatic. I would prefer my former rank not be displayed. Most vets made life much more than our former ranks convey. Let's be honest, not many people take an ex-full bird pfc (Specialist) to seriously as it is.
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It isn't OK for SMs to do it anywhere. POTUS is the Boss, like it or not. Bad mouthing him is not only unprofessional but really bad form. Says a lot about someone's character. I despised Clinton as much as he hated the military, but I dealt with it. In many a slow shift I talked with a lot of USSS agents, most of whom disliked him as well, but that's part of the job. We don't get to choose our bosses and the right thing to do is shut up and color.
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