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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_State_Militia_(Union)
Missouri has a volunteer state militia. Prior to the civil war the governor would and could call upon it's members to address emergencies, now the state has the National Guard to call on for emergencies, however the state militia continues to exist. It is not a part of the Reserve Military, it is a private defense organization of the state of Missouri, not funded by the state or federal government. Many of it's members are prior military. Their training occurs much the same as on the schedule for the Reserves and National Guard. appreciate all of your replies. I want to be clear here though that what I am talking about is NOT a State funded, ran, structured, controlled organization. It does not fall under the state government in anyway. The meetings, dates, times and locations are by invitation and or for members only. I have provided additional links to their web sites below, in the thread.
Missouri has a volunteer state militia. Prior to the civil war the governor would and could call upon it's members to address emergencies, now the state has the National Guard to call on for emergencies, however the state militia continues to exist. It is not a part of the Reserve Military, it is a private defense organization of the state of Missouri, not funded by the state or federal government. Many of it's members are prior military. Their training occurs much the same as on the schedule for the Reserves and National Guard. appreciate all of your replies. I want to be clear here though that what I am talking about is NOT a State funded, ran, structured, controlled organization. It does not fall under the state government in anyway. The meetings, dates, times and locations are by invitation and or for members only. I have provided additional links to their web sites below, in the thread.
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CPT (Join to see), this is actually a subject I've been aware of and pondering for some time.
For the states where the State Guard has been transformed into a uniformed set of administrative assistants and to the state's National Guard, I can't help but wonder what the rationale is for even pretending to have a state-run Guard.
I've actually been considering putting together a proposal (in my copious spare time, of course) for my state's governor to redefine and restructure the Maine State Guard -- and actually define the Maine militia -- as a paramilitary organization focused primarily on Civil Defense roles but not excluding the home-guard mission, and with a rank structure and organization not mimicking the U.S. Army.
There was a minor fuss made here recently when the state National Guard commander pushed through a redesignation of our National Guard combat engineer unit as infantry. The state liked having all that engineering equipment available for disaster use, and is not exactly enthused about losing it.
My thinking is that there might be some just-crazy-enough veterans running construction companies who also would like to play soldier every once in a while, so why not let them organize a militia construction platoon (or company, or battalion) and play soldier every so often with the caveat that they have to provide their own toys and they have to answer the governor's call if the need arises to mobilize them for a disaster or possibly even just for a major incident.
For the states where the State Guard has been transformed into a uniformed set of administrative assistants and to the state's National Guard, I can't help but wonder what the rationale is for even pretending to have a state-run Guard.
I've actually been considering putting together a proposal (in my copious spare time, of course) for my state's governor to redefine and restructure the Maine State Guard -- and actually define the Maine militia -- as a paramilitary organization focused primarily on Civil Defense roles but not excluding the home-guard mission, and with a rank structure and organization not mimicking the U.S. Army.
There was a minor fuss made here recently when the state National Guard commander pushed through a redesignation of our National Guard combat engineer unit as infantry. The state liked having all that engineering equipment available for disaster use, and is not exactly enthused about losing it.
My thinking is that there might be some just-crazy-enough veterans running construction companies who also would like to play soldier every once in a while, so why not let them organize a militia construction platoon (or company, or battalion) and play soldier every so often with the caveat that they have to provide their own toys and they have to answer the governor's call if the need arises to mobilize them for a disaster or possibly even just for a major incident.
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1LT William Clardy
Sgt Richard Buckner, so it's got a cop motor, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks? Does it run on regular gas?
Let me see if I can find a half-pack of cigarettes and my sunglasses...
Let me see if I can find a half-pack of cigarettes and my sunglasses...
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CPT (Join to see)
1LT William Clardy - Did you know they had a "Zombie" survival exercise. I need to find that article and send it your way.
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1LT William Clardy
Are you referring to the CDC advisory for preparing for a zombie apocalypse, CPT (Join to see)?
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As many others have stated the national guard is the state milita now anyway. As least that is what I was taught in school anyway.
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1LT William Clardy
Excellent dissertation, Sgt Richard Buckner, except you left out the historical rationale behind the federal law validating the creation of State Guard forces, which was in response to the states getting upset after being stripped of their Guard units when the Guard was mobilized and sent overseas during both World Wars. It's also worth noting that World War I was the first war where National Guard troops were deployed overseas after legal challenges to the constitutionality of overseas deployments failed in the courts.
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1LT William Clardy
Sgt Richard Buckner, somehow, I don't doubt that.
I am curious as to how deep your knowledge is of the history of the Texas and California state military forces, and their reorganization (in the last decade of the last millenium, if I recall correctly) from containing combat-arms organizations to being statutorily limited to support of the state's National Guard units.
I am curious as to how deep your knowledge is of the history of the Texas and California state military forces, and their reorganization (in the last decade of the last millenium, if I recall correctly) from containing combat-arms organizations to being statutorily limited to support of the state's National Guard units.
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CPT Jack Durish
The national guard is not a militia. A militia is formed by a group of citizens who keep and bear their own arms. National guard units are state-maintained armies. Frankly, I'm not certain what the justification is for them...
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This is something that came to my attention recently and it is not within the jurisdiction of the State or Federal Government. It is civilian ran, directed and controlled. It is not the National Guard.
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1LT William Clardy
CPT (Join to see), State Guards are military organizations sanctioned and controlled by the state, and they usually fall under the same state command structure as that state's National Guard units.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
Here in California we affectionately refer to them as SMuRF's, short for State Military Reserve Force. I like to think of the Governor as Papa Smurf or would he be Garagamel?
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COL Charles Williams
MISSOURI MILITIA - State Defense Force for MO Citizens
JOIN the Missouri Militia MO Militia Traning. The intent of the MO Militia is to act as the State Defense Force (SDF)... Need assistance? Learn more --
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LTC (Join to see)
It is different from the National Guard in that they are not federally recognized. They typically fall under the state military dept. along with the NG. They do work closely with NG and on STATE mobilizations can work side by side. They also support the Guard on admin and training functions. When Guard members were getting mobilized, Calif State Military Reserve were helping with processing and even some training functions of the Calif. NG soldiers
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There are some states that have state defense forces. Here is an example http://mil.wa.gov/wsg-home/
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MSG (Join to see)
Sgt Richard Buckner - I am always reading random useless knowledge online and I once came across state defense forces. So I started reading about them. It makes for some interesting reads. And, it would appear (at least basing it on the pics on their websites) they do help benefit the state and whatever local area they are in.
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MSG (Join to see)
Sgt Richard Buckner - I do apologize if my comment came across as their information is random and useless. When I use that phrase, it is meaning that it is random and useless information to others (namely wife and friends when I speak of the info I found), except for me. If it catches my attention and keeps me reading about it, then it is not random and useless to my brain.
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1LT William Clardy
MSG (Join to see), there is no random and useless information.
It's all highly critical preparation for the next Trivial Pursuit Grandmaster Tournament...
It's all highly critical preparation for the next Trivial Pursuit Grandmaster Tournament...
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Most of the southern states still have state militias separate from the National Guard
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LTC Charles T Dalbec
Why as they are duplicating The ARNG a Title 32 force that could be transferred to the Army Reserve ASAP.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Unpaid volunteers that a state governor can call on are not a bad thing. One of the advantages is that they no Title 32 obligations or links to the Federal government.
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Not to be confused with National Guard... Although others believe they are one and the same.
I do not.
Yes, absolutely they should exist.
I do not.
Yes, absolutely they should exist.
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For the curious; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force
It should be noted that unless its listed on there as "Active" then they are private, non-state government affiliated group. Lots of them try to stand up as "provisional" but they're not official and usually engage in some questionable stuff.
It should be noted that unless its listed on there as "Active" then they are private, non-state government affiliated group. Lots of them try to stand up as "provisional" but they're not official and usually engage in some questionable stuff.
State defense force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
State defense forces (SDF; also known as state guards, state military reserves, or state militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are partially regulated by the National Guard Bureau but they are not a part of the Army National Guard of the United States.[1] State defense forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each...
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California State Military Reserve "the smurfs (that's derogatory) a large number retired from the guard , but wanted to stay in for a while longer, others are medically ineliligable to enlist but wanted to serve any way and some that are too old. Best thing they did that I saw, during the LA riots while I was down south the smurfs manned the armory offices(this was before cell phones), and some lady whose husband was in LA had a plumbing emergency, the smurfs found a plumber(probably a vet) who fixed the problem for cost.
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Here in MI we have the Michigan Volunteer Defense Force, that can only be called up by the state governor. And of course you are seeing more more and more citizen militias being formed, some biased on prepping/survivalist type people, some biased on military type tactics and training.
I believe that if you are a civilian in this country, and you want to be part of a militia, you should be able to with no worry about repercussions from the .gov, as long as it is a militia that is biased on protecting and defending The Constitution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Volunteer_Defense_Force
I believe that if you are a civilian in this country, and you want to be part of a militia, you should be able to with no worry about repercussions from the .gov, as long as it is a militia that is biased on protecting and defending The Constitution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Volunteer_Defense_Force
Michigan Volunteer Defense Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Michigan Volunteer Defense Force (MIVDF) is a military force, duly constituted as a state defense force and an element of Michigan Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. The MIVDF was reorganized from the former Michigan Emergency Volunteers by Adjutant General Thomas Cutler in 2004 to fill a homeland security role in the State of Michigan. As of October 2011[update], the MIVDF is commanded by COL William Ewald, a retired United...
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I agree with your sentiment but there are a lot of things under interpretation in the Constitution. The current rulings are an example. Would such militias uphold the SCOTUS decisions? The organized state militias at least recognize the three party system and the rule of law. Not all independent militias are like that. The few mar the reputation of the whole.
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