Posted on Jun 10, 2023
MSG Lonnie Averkamp
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So, this is from the Daily Beast, and it infers that military veterans must be monitored. It brings up "the present and historical ties between American hate groups and armed servicemen and women....".

My own belief is that, because Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and mothers disagreeing with school boards tend to not vote the way that the staff of the Daily Beast would like, then they should be rounded up like the Gypsies and Jews in Germany in 1939 (too much of a threat to the New Order).

It seems that this article would classify George Washington as a "Radicalized Military Vet".

So, how do you see it?

Here is the full article:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/against-all-enemies-review-the-chilling-threat-of-radicalized-military-vets
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SGT Walt Pozgay
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I think veterans represent a cross-section of the American population and therefore, are just as likely as the population to provide members of hate groups. Many of the vets I know are quite liberal and find these hate groups to be abhorrent and against the core beliefs of the military, regardless of branch. The Wannabees make the veteran community look bad.
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SP5 Keith Phillips
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I don't believe everything printed or online, common Sense goes a long way
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SP5 Edward Klee
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People fear what they dont understand.. not understanding creates anger and more fear.. Our lack of Confidence and lazyness is destroying everything ( do you grow perennias and biennial...trees, shrubs and plants that are medicinal or edible, in your hardiness zone? Are you studing anatomy, emotionalIntelligence,
philosophy, MindfulnessMeditation, Herbalismand Kung-fu or self defense, oror basic survival? ). And thats why were easily mislead by the liars..Evil Prospers, when good people do nothing...seems everyone is either too passive or too aggressive..We need accountability at our local representatives... And Vote out everyone who lies , steals manipulates or murder... or just cant say No...What people fail to see is that were searching to make adjustments to improve, not try and control and micro manage..or make it worse..
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SGT Mary G.
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I think all "radicalized" extremist people are a potential threat to themselves and everyone else.
However, precisely what "radicalized" is intended to mean in reference to veterans would certainly needs to be clearly explained. Simply because someone labels someone in that way, does not make it so. Active duty, Reserve, Guard, IRR - radicalized extremists? The unit would know about that and be handling it. Right?
"Radicalized" suggests it is something that was done to someone (e.g. persuaded/manipulated/"brain washed"/propagandized . . .) So exactly what was done and who is responsible for the radicalizing would be as much or more of a threat.
The article speaks of social media "fueling soldiers’ attraction to these groups". I am not convinced veterans are attracted to extremist groups BECAUSE they were soldiers who were influenced by social media. Few people are actually naive enough, or ignorant enough to NOT realize most social media is full of miscreants, foreign and domestic, with a divide and conquer mentality, who are trying to stir up trouble.
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SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales
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Yes because they express their support for an individual or an ideology far above their support for the Constitution which holds this country together. The Constitution was not created for one group only but for all. When that one group tries to dictate the narrative to benefit them, that's how autocracies are created. No one is going to round up all vets. We are all here to support them in their mental health the best way we can. And Washington fought to break away from the monarchy, it seems many nowadays want to emplace a 1 family rule again.
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SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales
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Yes, because they express their support above all to an individual or personal ideology first and not to the Constitution which holds this country together.
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Definitely wrong left wing BS
A1C Jj Birchard
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A hit piece, yes. But with guys like Mad Dog Flynn and other Mad dogs who believe that the oath we all took has a shelf life. That is a fact that can't be wished away. Peaceful protest yes, storming our capital NO! And when crimes go unpunished, see Flynn's pardon, it encourages more crime.
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SGT Chuck Freiman
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A1C Birchard. The shelf life of our oath ends when we die. Until then we have an obligation to express our opinions, whatever they might be, in a peaceful and lawful manner.
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A1C Jj Birchard
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Not what I said Sir. Big difference between an attack on Privat property and an assault on our very system of governess. A planed and coordinated assault the very heart of our democracy. The Capital is not a 7/11 store.
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SPC Vonnie Jones
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I fond it hard to read the daily beast without raising an eyebrow, with that being said it hard to read articles and comments on this page that are clearly one-sided. Yes there are extremists in all groups, someone is always not happy with the Country that so many have giving their lives defending. I am an African American who worked in the city when black lives matters marched and when Jan 6th happened. I will say I have participated in hundreds of marches over the year, but January 6th turned out to be are tried to be a hostile take over .braking into the Capital was not the act of respect! It was act of extremists. Trying to change a vote that they did not Agee was was over the top, chanting hang Pence has alarming. No black lives MLM did not bring a confederate flag in the Capital.
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SPC Vonnie Jones
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MSG Joseph Cristofaro hmmm, sounds like you were there? I do remember people dying the ones that Kyle Rittenhouse killed and got away with! Smh a child that should have stayed home. Yes a lot of damage to building in protest to several black and brown peoples lives that are taken. You did watch 3 black men on TV via video die at the hands of renegade police didn't you. My thought is maybe they weren't innocent of the crimes that they were accused of and maybe they were, but police should leave the trial up to the jury. So yes property was destroyed in protest of lives being taken. Jan 6, hostile take over of our government, what is the proper word coupe? Now I was around for both. Chanting hang Pence the Vice President! Erecting a gallow (really primal) threatening our law makers weather you like and agree with them or not is atrocious matter of fact it is treasonous, in time past you know what they did to those that came against the government as the people that aided John Wilkes Booth oh you can't because they were hung by the same gallows that were erected for Vice President Pence. This is not China we value life more than property. Btw what does the flag have to do with it? You say, I say everything by bringing that flag in, one that show blatant disregard for democracy, you show disrespect for those that have given their lives for what the stars and stipes stand for! If you agree with noithing else I am sure you agee with this. During each war the stars and stripes was carried on the battle field, we even stand at attention when the stars and stripes are raised and when the are lowered not the confederate flag. When soldiers make their most valuable sacrifice their bodies/caskets are draped in the American flag not the confederate one. When I see the confederate flag at any rally I am not only offended as an African American I am offended as an American and as a Veteran that has served. I am offended for my cousin who was blown up 3 times Afghanistan but still went back to fight. I am offended for my Navy brother who served in Byrain twice and for my other brother who served in the Airforce for 30 years and served in 3 war zones. I am also offended for my sister who has injured mind after serving. I am even offended for my dead grandfather that never received a thank you for your service after WW II because of his color. So the treasonous January 6 rioters did an injustice to your and my service by bringing a treasonous flag into the people's house. You should be offended. Best regards
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SPC Vonnie Jones
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MSG Joseph Cristofaro I believe I wrote that I was offended as a soldier as well. Keep watching television to make your assumptions, see how well that works. Oh yeah Rittenhouse the minor should not have been out. He was a boy playing a grown up game and cried a boys tears because he was wrong. Thank you for your 25 + , maybe being on the inside so long has closed your view. Since you put so much emphasis on TV, I am sure you saw two black men killed at the hand of law enforcement or didn't that get shown on the channel you watch? Again involved in crime or not everyone deserves their day in court, hmmm maybe you didn't see the innocent school teacher shot in his car, oh Again maybe you don't watch that channel. Again the conferate flag being in the Capital on Jan 6th draped around the sedionist that broke in unlawfully I might add. You mean in all your watching of the news you didn't see that? Btw black on black crime hurts me to the core! I raise to young black sons that have been stopped while driving black! I won't quote numbers as you have however I am sure you know the numbers of how often it happens. Just because black on black crime exists doesn't mean that we in the community aren't trying to bring it to a stop. I seems the only time our voices are heard is when a police is involved! That's the only time a black life matters out side of the community that's when people listen I dare say when there community livelihood is at risk. Funny you spoke of black lives matters, but didn't say a thing about the police that the Jan 6th mob killed. Did you forget the damage that was done on Jan 6th or does it not matter because it wasn't BLM? I guess we all choose what we deem as important and what true patriotism is. What I stood for and still stand for is democracy, justice for all, equal treatment under the law, those things that I despise are injustices committed by those that are sworn to protect and serve. Take a look at your video of Jan 6th the confederate flag was in our house and it matter.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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As In Any Other Situation, If They Break The Law,
Follow Through With Appropriate Action;
Otherwise, Mind Your Own Damned Business.
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