Posted on Jun 10, 2023
Do you believe that "Radicalized Military Vets" are a true threat to the Nation?
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So, this is from the Daily Beast, and it infers that military veterans must be monitored. It brings up "the present and historical ties between American hate groups and armed servicemen and women....".
My own belief is that, because Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and mothers disagreeing with school boards tend to not vote the way that the staff of the Daily Beast would like, then they should be rounded up like the Gypsies and Jews in Germany in 1939 (too much of a threat to the New Order).
It seems that this article would classify George Washington as a "Radicalized Military Vet".
So, how do you see it?
Here is the full article:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/against-all-enemies-review-the-chilling-threat-of-radicalized-military-vets
My own belief is that, because Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and mothers disagreeing with school boards tend to not vote the way that the staff of the Daily Beast would like, then they should be rounded up like the Gypsies and Jews in Germany in 1939 (too much of a threat to the New Order).
It seems that this article would classify George Washington as a "Radicalized Military Vet".
So, how do you see it?
Here is the full article:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/against-all-enemies-review-the-chilling-threat-of-radicalized-military-vets
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Sounds like the new red scare to me. Just tells me they've failed to sell white supremacy as the new bogeyman.
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp
Good point, Sir. The old "watch the shiny object" trick. The only problem is that, a significant percentage of the population appears to be falling for it.
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LCDR (Join to see)
MSG Lonnie Averkamp - they always do. Most people don't realize that they're being gas-lit by the press. Some people may be starting to awaken to it but for many, it's easier to just believe what the media feeds them than think for themselves.
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I’m looking at the question and find it interesting that they’re worried about radicalized Veterans I am worried about all radicalized people.
Everybody’s entitled to their opinion, but some opinions are really out there and some opinions are really dangerous if people take actions based on them. The Manson family was a true danger to America because they were radicalize. I’m worried about anybody military ex-military or non-military that becomes radicalized.
Everybody’s entitled to their opinion, but some opinions are really out there and some opinions are really dangerous if people take actions based on them. The Manson family was a true danger to America because they were radicalize. I’m worried about anybody military ex-military or non-military that becomes radicalized.
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp
MSgt Allen Chandler; SO Well-Said. You see when the Left attempts to burn down a Federal Courthouse with government employees inside, that's a "....mostly peaceful protest...", but when some gullible Righties illegally enter the Capital (and possibly with the help and encouragement of Assets working in coordination with the then-Speaker-of-the-House), then it is an "Insurrection".
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LCDR (Join to see)
A common meme I see now days is some sort of variant of a Native American looking at white settlers and complaining about immigrants.
While I know it's an attempt to insult while people, I can't help but think there's a good warning in there for those who have the ability to think critically.
While I know it's an attempt to insult while people, I can't help but think there's a good warning in there for those who have the ability to think critically.
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp
LCDR (Join to see) - I believe that the "Native Americans" comparison is just a ploy to capitalize on the "evil white people" mantra that has become so popular. A big difference is that many of the Native Americans, eventually, had the fortitude to resist this "invasion", but they were out-gunned, out-supplied, and out-manned. The current Culturalists are not that smart.
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp - It will last until people get tired of bowing to white guilt and the notion that I can be held responsible for something done by someone with the same skin tone as me.
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My support is with the American people and the Constitution. We all took the Oath, and it has no expiration date. Since when does that become the qualifier for a radical extremist? When they want to fundamentally change America and our way of life, then we are on opposing sides. I hope they give this illusion up because they won't like where it leads.
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp
You are giving "them" way-too-much Benefit of the Doubt. It is not an illusion for them; it is totally by design. Stalin said, "Show me the man; I'll find you the crime". The same policy is currently in effect, on all levels.
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SFC Domingo M.
MSG Lonnie Averkamp - I agree with you, thank God everything they try keeps blowing up in their face. They are not about to give up. They are desperate, thinking that one more term and President Trump will undo decades of work on their part to get where they are.
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I disagree with the assertion that military vets are out there just waiting to be radicalized. Yes it may be true that many vets are more right leaning than the general population, but I myself am a liberal.
I see many more failed veterans (those who could not complete their terms of service) as the majority of the radicalized vets. The military would no longer have nothing to do with them and they are looking to validate their lives. They think they got a raw deal and are unhappy with their lot in life. I would add that this would be a very tiny minority.
I would add that there is a very tiny minority of folks on the left who are radicalized.
All in all these radicalized people are a threat to our country and society as a whole, but it is a limited threat
I see many more failed veterans (those who could not complete their terms of service) as the majority of the radicalized vets. The military would no longer have nothing to do with them and they are looking to validate their lives. They think they got a raw deal and are unhappy with their lot in life. I would add that this would be a very tiny minority.
I would add that there is a very tiny minority of folks on the left who are radicalized.
All in all these radicalized people are a threat to our country and society as a whole, but it is a limited threat
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp
SFC Jerald Bottcher, Very well said, and a fair assessment. In about 1976, I had already voted in one presidential election, and was pretty-much a centrist. I liked some of the things that the Kennedys and Proxmires stood for, and some that I did not. I think that it is normal, with you working in the Land Combat Arms, that you probably are around more conservatives, but when you get on the "2-Way-Rifle-Range" (where you shoot at the Pop-Up Targets and the Pop-Up Targets shoot back at you), there tend to me more important things, at the moment, than political philosophies.
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The Daily Beast is not a trustworthy news organization. It is a left-wing rag, spouting left-wing values.
As to "radicalized" vets, I doubt that there are a significant number. Every organization has its misfits and screwballs, so why would we expect service members and veterans to be different?
As to "radicalized" vets, I doubt that there are a significant number. Every organization has its misfits and screwballs, so why would we expect service members and veterans to be different?
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp
Indeed! If you want to see a bunch of "radicalized" screwballs, just turn on the evening news and look at the rabble camped outside our college campuses.
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Calling Vets "Radicalized" is just as stupid as the phrase "Man-splaining."
It's an ad hominem meant to discredit rational reasoning and discipline because they cannot respond likewise.
It's an ad hominem meant to discredit rational reasoning and discipline because they cannot respond likewise.
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I believe it is a question of your interpretation of what IS, is. What is so radical to believe in God and Country? Or to know that COVID was MAN MADE and had its roots in USA, specifically Fauci. Or that there was absolutely no need for VACCINES for Covid-19! Yes follow the science, but check it for accuracy. Easiest pathway to infection was a Vitamin D3 issue, and strangely enough one specific racial group to have such a deficiency at the appropriate timing for the introduction into open society was which group? I will leave that to you, if you have an inquiring mind. Hell, I could be considered radicalized because I eat RED MEAT (only beef of course). I am not a vegan or bug eater by choice or habit and no one has the power to challenge that! Again, it all depends on what your Definition of Radicalized is.
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MSG Lonnie Averkamp
There is good thought in your post. To the Left, a "Radical" is anyone who will not fall in-line with their mandates (Constitutional or not), and is willing to forcefully resist.
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SSG Norbert Johnson
Agreed. In the Army (AD) I complied as well as requested council from the leadership, specifically 1SG via the command structure. Expressed my concerns and honored his suggestions. Therefore I respected the command, followed orders, gained confidence of the command, but was labeled radical. But, that was only the position of my peers. The Command welcomed my opinions especially when I quoted Regulations that supported my concerns (note concern is not treated as a complaint by the command nor is it considered Radicalized or insubordinate). And again, it is the interpretation of what IS, is.
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The vast majority of military personnel are far to busy with their everyday duties to find the time to be "Radicalized"! I am in total agreement with SFC John Davis -- Reading the Daily Beast is a waste of effort if you are looking for respectable journalism. As for the UMC study that almost 1 in 7 of the people from Jan 6th were veterans... According to the 2022 US Census, 13.4% of all males have Veteran Status. Using those stats, veteran participation was a normal distribution - they were not overrepresented!
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So to be fair to both ends of the spectrum, bring back the draft, open it to all genders, religions, whatever. Then no one can complain that they don't have enough soldiers sharing their views.
SSG Norbert Johnson
I concur and to be fair and equitable, there should be separate categories of each of the 99 gender identities and Transitioned hominids so that an equal amount of each is selected for the DRAFT. That is equitable is it not? And it is fair as well because each category has the same numbers serving.. and that is equal is it not? And, since there is a shortage of recruits during this time of world calamity, the Draft should start yesterday.
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I no longer give a shit what leftist and democrat based organizations say about me or others. What I DO care about is upholding the oath I have taken more times than I can count. And that oath does not change because someone else has an opinion that calls it "radical" or anything else.
My own creed is this. I will stand and I will do what is necessary to defend the rights therein of the US Constitution. And I will do so without regard to my life if need be. That means in plain English. You come and try to remove my rights from me without any due process based on some piece of paper, executive order, illegitimate agency rules and regulations, I will not go to my knees. I will stand and defend those rights.
IF the Constitution is amended and ratified by all states as amended, then I will abide by that. However, there is also a line there I will not cross. And that line is when someone in power tries to remove God given absolute rights to our lives and our choices on how WE choose to live them.
My own creed is this. I will stand and I will do what is necessary to defend the rights therein of the US Constitution. And I will do so without regard to my life if need be. That means in plain English. You come and try to remove my rights from me without any due process based on some piece of paper, executive order, illegitimate agency rules and regulations, I will not go to my knees. I will stand and defend those rights.
IF the Constitution is amended and ratified by all states as amended, then I will abide by that. However, there is also a line there I will not cross. And that line is when someone in power tries to remove God given absolute rights to our lives and our choices on how WE choose to live them.
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