Posted on Sep 24, 2014
PO1 Steven Kuhn
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Sharia law in america
I want to know whether anyone believes that Islam in America demanding Sharia Law will work in America with our Constitution and Bill of Rights. With the growing Muslim population (both legally and illegally) and all of the special treatment they get regarding their religion as compared to any other in America are you worried about whether our Constitution will survive?
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Nope, that is why I love the Separation of Church and State that is written into our Constitution and 1st Amendment. I don't want anyone's interpretation of what they're "God" told them dictating "My Government".
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SSgt Stanley, take the reasons that you do not believe in any of the other gods and apply them to your own, if only as a matter of introspection. They are, probably, not unlike the reasons I do not believe in any god. There is no evidence for the divinity of any figure in history outside of the claims themselves. I was born right the first time, I do not need to apologize for being a human. I have no 'sins' for which I need to apologize to a cruel, narcissitic, 'omnipotent' bully. I am ultimately accountable for myself, to myself and nothing more.
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PO1 Steven Kuhn
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Chip and James, we live in a country were you have the freedom to believe what you want, but I am with Mr. Stanley on this one. I know God is real, know Jesus Christ died for my sins on the cross, and will talk to you about it sometime if you desire as that is what we are called to do. If you take the time to do an honest study on the people involved in the formation of what we know as "America" you will find that almost 100% of them where practicing Christians with a strong faith in Divine Providence or a Benevolent God. It used to be taught in our schools (the actual biographies of our founding fathers) but was taken out before the Bible was removed from schools, and no one can deny that Puritans came to America fleeing religious persecution in England. So I challenge you sirs to take the time to look at the true history of America. God, and God-Fearing Patriots made America great. If and when you start this investigation, you will find that George Washington declared (and 15 years later it was affirmed by two Indian Chieftains) that the hand of Divine Providence kept him alive. You will learn that the first act of Congress was to print an American Bible to use in our schools to teach our children morality. You will also learn that many key players were ordained ministers. You will also learn that our Constitution is quoted as being the key and cornerstone to Christian living in America. If our Founding Fathers put so much faith in God, and they achieved so many great things, then don't you think it is at least worth a look?
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MSgt Lowell Skelton
MSgt Lowell Skelton
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"it doesn't change the fact that God is real, Heaven is real, and Jesus Christ died on an old rugged Cross"

So, when are you going to prove that absurd claim?
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LTC Herman Cohen
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.....and G-d appeared to Moses as a burning bush that was not consumed.....

And by the way, Jefferson was a Deist who "edited" the bible, taking out the parts he did think were true.
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Cpl Glynis Sakowicz
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Sharia law is not compatable because it treats women as if they are beneath comtempt. Come on now... try telling your wives or girl friends that they need to wear burkas, that they can't drive, or have a say in the government... that you are allowed to beat them whenever you see fit, and if they are raped, they are required to have men who WITNESS the crime come forward... otherwise, they are probably going to be charged for the crime they suffered, and stoned, hanged or otherwise 'taught' that women don't complain about men...
Not going to happen to this woman, as long as I have a gun safe.
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Pvt Diane Pownall
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I agree with you.
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PO1 Steven Kuhn
PO1 Steven Kuhn
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Believe me, my question was more of a "wake up America call" than any type of agreement. If I were to be led to the dark side, I would hand my wife the gun myself!
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PO1 Steven Kuhn
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I have been voted down twice on this topic by a person named hidden. I cannot reply to them or see their reply. I post these questions not to offend anyone, but to engage people who have served and (in my opinion) have a sense of integrity and honor their opinion on issues facing us today. Mr or Mrs Hidden, whoever you are, I would appreciate the ability to see and converse with those who would vote me down. I do not begrudge the fact that you voted me down, but I do not appreciate the fact that like the murderers who butchered those poor reporters recently you lack the courage to post your identity or show your face. Maybe you are not from around here, but you have the right to freedom of speech as do I. You also have the right to hide your identity......one just might wonder why! Have a good day "Hidden".
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MAJ J5 Strategic Plans And Training Officer
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NO! I have daughters and I served in Afghanistan and Iraq. If any man try to treat my daughters as those females under shiria, I will beat them down. Open the door and oppression will follow.
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Cpl Brett Wagner
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Ugh! No, however we do not enforce our own laws now. Also congress would be exempt.
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PO2 Paul Kirby
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No. There are no religious "laws", of any sort, compatible with the Constitution. We're a republic, not a theocracy.
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SSgt Bob Christensen
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Not only NO, but HELL NO!
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SSG John Erny
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Hell No!
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PO2 Rocky Kleeger
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Sharia is compatible, only with Sharia law
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CPT Ray Doeksen
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Article VI of the Constitution spells it out very clearly, that it is the supreme Law of the Land; there is no other source required or allowed.

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

That does it, right there: there is no room for any interpretation that allows for another source of law.
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SPC Paul Shene III
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That is why we are sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
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Aristotle is quoted as saying: "The Law is reason Free from passion." As such, and due to the very basic principles that this nation and its constitution were founded upon, there is not only no room for Sharia Law, but there is no room for ANY 'Laws' that are mandated by any religious principles. These United States came into existence for many reasons, one of which was the pursuit of religious freedom. If religious tyranny (study Sharia Law if this phrase concerns you) is to rear its ugly head to Americans once again, it should be met with the swiftest and fiercest judgment.

***DISCLAIMER***
I am not in any way anti-religion. I think believing in something greater than one's self is good for the soul.
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PO1 Steven Kuhn
PO1 Steven Kuhn
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Read some of the quotes from our founding fathers of this great nation WE love regarding their feelings on the need for GOD and Morality in our nation, and please get back to me.
r/Steve
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With all due respect MM1, I am not disputing the need for God, and certainly not morality. I do however believe that the place for God, or any chosen deity in a society is to INSPIRE one to act morally of ones own free will, not to MANDATE one single cultures alien interpretation of what is right and wrong.
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