Posted on Nov 16, 2015
Do you feel your base's security is locked down enough to prevent an on-base attack?
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Good question. In a word, no. Bases operate effectively when thousands of people can enter and exit every day, 365/year. So they can't open every glove box and trunk and mirror under every car every day. So they can't prevent an attack. They do a good job, I think, of being a harder target than most places, and balancing the operational every day needs of getting beans to the chow hall and bullets to the armory with security requirements. Even better would be to allow all active duty with concealed carry training to open carry on base.
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Cpl Shane Cunningham
I'd say the open carry is a good plan. I just wouldn't want to go to the armory everyday. I'm curious if the force protection level will raise with the influx of refugees.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Hope so. Any thinking enemy would attempt to place as many agents within the refugee pool as possible. They would be dumb NOT to do it. Yet our administration imagines they won't.
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Though I'm no longer in, it is quite simple to sneak into Nellis, AFB. My supervisor and I have brought it up to the commander that the base isn't as secure, and they still have done nothing to correct the gaps.
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Hi, Corporal Cunningham.
No, and it’s not supposed to. AF Security Forces (a stellar team, career field, and mission, make no mistake) provide a vehicle to keep honest people honest. For the bad guys, they provide a way to filter and contain the threat, minimize damage, and protect the base populace and assets. But completely negating an on-base attack will be impossible. The advantage is the attackers, and base security is a reactive, response-oriented tool. Proactive threat deterrence will continue to fall to OSI, FBI, etc.
No, and it’s not supposed to. AF Security Forces (a stellar team, career field, and mission, make no mistake) provide a vehicle to keep honest people honest. For the bad guys, they provide a way to filter and contain the threat, minimize damage, and protect the base populace and assets. But completely negating an on-base attack will be impossible. The advantage is the attackers, and base security is a reactive, response-oriented tool. Proactive threat deterrence will continue to fall to OSI, FBI, etc.
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CMSgt James Nolan
SSgt (Join to see) Well said brother, no traditional installation is 100% attack proof. That is a pipe dream. There are some that are significantly better defended than others, yes. Security personnel and systems must be vigilant. Defensive postures must be perfect 100% of the time to win, offensive postures have to get lucky one time.
If you have 100 miles of perimeter, you have 100 miles of opportunity for ingress. Security is everyone's business. Taking it lightly at any point, invites chance. When you invite chance, the prepared take notice. When the prepared take notice, they plan for opportunity. When opportunity knocks, you best have your A Game ready.
Defensor Fortis
If you have 100 miles of perimeter, you have 100 miles of opportunity for ingress. Security is everyone's business. Taking it lightly at any point, invites chance. When you invite chance, the prepared take notice. When the prepared take notice, they plan for opportunity. When opportunity knocks, you best have your A Game ready.
Defensor Fortis
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It could be much better, perhaps if we were to hypothetically ....arm...the armed forces.....
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I do get concerned about security during morning rush hour. The lines into the main gates are nearly backed onto the highway, and the guards hold up their hands mimicking holding an ID card as they quickly wave us through with a one second glance at our ID through the windshield.
I don't think it would take much effort for a bad guy to notice this pattern and slip in with a fake ID and uniform from one of the nearby surplus stores.
I don't think it would take much effort for a bad guy to notice this pattern and slip in with a fake ID and uniform from one of the nearby surplus stores.
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CMSgt James Nolan
Depends where you are. Some bases use DBIDS and scan ID. If you are at a base, where they simply glance through the window, you are at an un-secure location..
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1SG (Join to see)
Only happens during the morning rush. JBLM is just outside Seattle-Tacoma area and has a negative contribution to the traffic on the interstate that connects them.
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No there is an illusion of security but that's about it. So many un watched walls and it really wouldn't be hard to just go in through the front gate
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No. History has shown us that no base/installation is "secure" when you have to take into account insider threats...
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