Posted on Jun 10, 2017
Do you find the term "butter bar" offensive or demeaning?
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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Baby Eltee, ya need to just chill out, roll with it, grow into your boots cause it don't start getting easy until you retire.
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My grandfathers both veterans one of WWII the other Korea and Vietnam used that term all the time I believe it's the quality or lack of quality of service members that are serving today. I watched a lot of changes come with the change of uniform standards dropped so did the newbies or FNGs!
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My butter bars were some of the best officers I have ever known. To me, it was a term of acceptance
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I don't find it disrespectful. But...that also might be due to the fact that I'm enlisted and never had to serve as a 2LT. For the young LT who doesn't get trusted by anyone and has to have an NCO watch over there back, hearing the term butter bar might be a term that gets under their skin. But for me...NOPE, I'm good!
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I am a retired AF Msgt, but I got to commission my daughter to 2Lt. She started out as enlisted and the got her commission. She is now a LTC, she thought it was a term of endearment being called a butter bar. A right of passage so to speak.
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Nope, doesn't offend me one bit. If you're too thin skinned then maybe you need to re-look your decision to be in the military.
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