Posted on Jun 10, 2017
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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MAJ Alan Montgomery
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As a newly minted officer, I never gave it a thought. Personally, I never thought of it as offensive or complimentary, but my time we had other, more important, issues on our minds than to be offended by being called a "butter bar". But like I said my time was 50 years ago and today there are more important issues like worrying about what bathroom to use or what box to check when the form asks for our gender taking up our time.
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LtCol Paul Bowen
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Being called a “Shaved Tail” by my Uncle, who served in the Army, always bugged me.

I was in training for three years and never really heard derogatory things about being a 2ndLt/O-1. We had 5 months of The Basic School (TBS) where you embarrass yourself in front of peers. Then Naval Flight School from DEC 1980 to AUG 1982. Then F-4 Phantom School from SEP 1982 to JUN 1983.
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PO3 Rod Arnold
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Sticks and Stones.........
If those words you mentioned cause some to have hurt butt feelings than I agree with you, they are in the wrong profession!! They would be more suited as a DemoRat Politician!!!
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SPC Jimmy Rooks I
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As a "proud" Irish-American I REVEL in pejoratives!(I am NOT "vertically challenged"! I am SHORT!)
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It's not ment to be a complement. Its reflective of the implied inexperience. Is a o-1e really a butter bar? All the LT's i ever knew grew into their bars quickly. The smart ones shut up an listened. Then had something to say
SSG Shawn Mcfadden
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Butter Bars(0-1, Second LT), have to start somewhere as well. However, they are Still Commissioned Officers, so you obviously would NOT say that to the Person's face.
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CPL Gary Syme
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In this day of chair-borne rangers trying to make us all safe from the evil, hateful words. They weaken us as a fighting force and as a nation. If you can't handle slang and tradition, how are supposed to handle lead, steal, and explosives flying around.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
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Who cares? Grow up. Get over it.
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MSG Richard Boucher
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Too many today have become offended over the slightest things. STOP THE MADNESS! The stupid has gone on long enough. If you are easily offended, you are in the wrong profession.
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CMDCM Tom Vinson
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If being called a butter bar hurts their feelings they better get over it quick or their new career will be relatively short. A sense of humor at the bottom of the totem pole is a necessary thing and a little humility goe a long way in the military.
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