Posted on Feb 9, 2021
Do you get a deployment patch for a 3 month training rotation to Bulgaria?
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I just got to my new unit and there’s a few people that wear a deployment patch for doing a 3 month training rotation to Bulgaria, I thought deployment patches were only for hazardous location such as Afghanistan.
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I think you are missing the purpose of a "Combat Patch." It is not a "I went overseas and hung out patch."
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SPC (Join to see)
I get the purpose of a combat patch that’s why I asked the question. It didn’t seem right for soldiers to be walking around with one for a training rotation.
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I've been out for awhile. But they should only get an overseas service ribbon, not an c ombat patch unless Bulgaria is considered a hazardous duty or imminent danger zone. Which I don't believe it is.
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Seems like this unit is really messed up. I’m still in processing and from what I’ve seen so far they do what they want and throw regulatioms out of the window.
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They could have had a team fly to or through Central Command during the tour and get the patch
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Officially it was called the "shoulder sleeve insignia-former wartime service" (SSI-FWTS)."
Army Times calls it a combat patch as recently as 27 Jan 2021 in an article.
Now officially called: "A significant policy update features a name change for the patch soldiers wear on their right shoulder to show wartime service.
"We also made a big change to what a lot of soldiers call the 'combat patch,'" (Sgt. Maj. Brian Sanders, Army G-1, Uniform Policy Branch sergeant major) said.
The Shoulder Sleeve Insignia Former Wartime Service will now be called the Shoulder Sleeve Insignia Military Operations in Hostile Conditions. It is authorized for soldiers who served on combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, but also those who served in certain countries considered hostile areas."
I don't know where "deployment patch" came into play when the G1 SGM is calling it a combat patch too or what it's commonly referred to just a few weeks ago.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/27/army-rolls-out-army-green-uniform-wear-guidelines-renames-combat-patch.html#:~:text=The%20new%20shoulder%20sleeve%20insignia,optional%20undershirt%20designed%20for%20nursing.
Army Times calls it a combat patch as recently as 27 Jan 2021 in an article.
Now officially called: "A significant policy update features a name change for the patch soldiers wear on their right shoulder to show wartime service.
"We also made a big change to what a lot of soldiers call the 'combat patch,'" (Sgt. Maj. Brian Sanders, Army G-1, Uniform Policy Branch sergeant major) said.
The Shoulder Sleeve Insignia Former Wartime Service will now be called the Shoulder Sleeve Insignia Military Operations in Hostile Conditions. It is authorized for soldiers who served on combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, but also those who served in certain countries considered hostile areas."
I don't know where "deployment patch" came into play when the G1 SGM is calling it a combat patch too or what it's commonly referred to just a few weeks ago.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/27/army-rolls-out-army-green-uniform-wear-guidelines-renames-combat-patch.html#:~:text=The%20new%20shoulder%20sleeve%20insignia,optional%20undershirt%20designed%20for%20nursing.
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Some CSM and 1SG's are not doing there jobs, scratch that, every fracking NCO should be all over that!
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I’m still in processing post and when I went to the unit to see how the cbrn cage was setup it was a disaster. They have cbrn equipment in random drawers in 2 offices and all the paperwork is outdated and it’s mind blowing how they passed their last inspection.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
My advice, casually approach your 1SG with some CBRN related issues, and point out that the CSM of your old unit was a real stickler for "Combat Patches," and show him the AR with reference to it.
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Well if there a few that are wearing "deployment patches" then one of two things has occurred. 1) several someones in your unit are ate up and need serious corrections including but not limited to the commander, 1st Sgt and NCOes 2) You got yoinked, like going to fetch a box of ground guides or a tube of elbow grease.
There is no "deployment patch." There are patches for seeing combat, but not for just rotating into a country and rotating out when there is no hostile actions ongoing as approved by DOD.
There is no "deployment patch." There are patches for seeing combat, but not for just rotating into a country and rotating out when there is no hostile actions ongoing as approved by DOD.
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Too easy : AR 760-1 (and I believe the accompanying PAM) clearly spell out the circumstances that lead to the wearing of that patch.
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