Posted on Mar 3, 2017
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With all the rhetoric about Russian collusion and no evidence at the present to validate the accusations.

1. Exactly what does Russia gain with a Trump Administration that affects our National Security? Foreign interference is common in elections even by the U.S.

2. Why do you believe the Trump administration would conspire with Russia?

3. Do you believe Vice President Pence or Congress would go along with this idea?
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Henning Heinemann
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Trump can't throw America under the bus, Woodrow Wilson did that on December 23,1913. The Federal Reserve Act was the final surrender of The Declaration of Independence and after that America has acted in diametric opposition to everything the founders intended. We no longer even have Capitalism because Capitalism requires a competitive Capital Supply. The Federal Reserve Act gave a monopoly on the U.S. capital Supply back to a privately held British firm which acts as the financial services conglomerate for the European Aristocracy, and the 16th Amendment pays them the tax on the paper money that no U.S. Government representative has any representative control over the issuance of. That is the same tax that was in the Stamp Act at 3% that is referred to in classrooms across the country when we are taught the Revolution was over "taxation without representation"; and that is exactly what we have today. Shortly thereafter we entered WWI to protect that capital supply, WWI being a continuation of the Crimean War which was an Aristocracy family feud over which families gained control over which oil fields. Every War since then, including the Cold War and these current wars has been a continuation of the same and a violation of the Founders edict of "No standing army, and stay out of Europe's wars." The Federal Reserve Act lead to the Great Depression which hit globally and when multiplied with the Treaty of Versailles created the situation in Germany which lead to Hitler's rise and the Holocaust while simultaneously our defense of Aristocracy Imperial holdings in the South China Sea/SE Asia region is what lead to Pearl Harbor and the Pacific Theater of WWII. The Cold War was fought to assure the Bolsheviks could not succeed in ending Feudalism, basically they fought the same revolution the Founders fought; unfortunately we surrendered before their revolution otherwise we would already be a space faring species. This is why the Founders said "stay out of Europe's wars." The wars today are just a continuation of protecting a Feudal financial system and maintaining global control for a set of families the founders fought to free us from.

So you see, we have been dragging under the bus for ove 100 years now. Putin is a Bolshevik, and China has bought most of the world's resources using the debt we handed them for cheap consumer goods. Trump may very well collapse what America has become, but what America has become is a far cry from what America was intended to be. Hopefully Americans will come to this realization and go back to the Founder's economic rules where Capital had to have a backing commodity, and anyone with the commodity could produce currency off it.
The best way to do that is to start the Hydrogen Economy. Urbanagandenergy.org
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SGT Robert George
SGT Robert George
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Interesting , I was thinking about 50 yrs ago but not 100 thanks !!!!
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Henning Heinemann
Henning Heinemann
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Had it not been for the Federal Reserve Act and our reversal of economic ethics, we would have been high fiving the Bolsheviks in 1918 and the world would be completely different place today, mamkind would already be mining the asteroid belt and living in space. Instead we used the technology and resources destructively to ensure continued feudalism.
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SGT Peter Hayes
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#1 nothing
#2 NO
#3 NO
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Cpl John Barker
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1. Exactly what does Russia gain with a Trump Administration that affects our National Security? -HRC stated and then reiterated during the 1st AND 3rd presidential debates that she wanted to impose a no fly zone over Syria. General Dunford said previous to this that would take no less than a land war with Syria and Russia. This cannot be stated enough, and for some reason is mostly forgotten. Trump simply does not want a war with Putin, and TBH our military is so exausted from 16 years of continuious deployments that we couldn't fight a war with ourself, more or less the entire Russian military.
2. Do you really believe the administration would sell out America?-The guy took a tremenous risk running for POTUS that any buisnessman will tell you would likely hurt his earnings not grow them. Guy is 70 years old with zero buisness interestes in Russia and 10 billion dollars in hard assets, you CAN'T get him to sell out.
3. Do you really believe Vice President Pence would go along with this idea? I have mixed feelings about Vice President Pence, but generally I feel that he is a benevolent leader.
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PO3 Andrew Kelly
PO3 Andrew Kelly
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I am sorry but you are wrong on your second point. On the record, he has millions in business interests in Russia. His empire is in the middle of negotiating another hotel there among other things. His refusal to divest himself of his business interests means he has already chosen his business over his responsibilities to us.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Do you ever provide evidence to back up your rather dubious claims?
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Cpl John Barker
Cpl John Barker
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There is no source for this, and even if there were I highly doubt a deal on a single hotel or even chain of hotels would count as leverage against a guy with between 3-7 billion in hard assets
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PO3 Andrew Kelly - This may be a debate about the difference between hard assets and revenue. Without supporting documents it is difficult to validate holdings, especially for a private (vice publicly traded) enterprise such as Trump. https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-said-money-pouring-in-from-russia-2018-2
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Not knowingly. I don't think the administration believes it is engaging in any treasonous activity. I have no doubt that, in the relationship between Russia and our Administration, both sides feel that they are the dominant party and getting exactly what they want. I've no doubt that hubris on both sides of the playing field are marring perspective. But I doubt they wake up each morning going "whelp, time to commit some treason".
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1SG Clifford Barnes
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No
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SGT Matthew Mark
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Nothing
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Capt Retired
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No, he will not. But, the opposition will if they can gain from doing so.
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Capt Dwayne Conyers
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1. Any strategic advantage (I.e. leaked classified data) is a threat to our national security

2. In some ways, they already have. Particularly, from an economic POV. Taking from the poor and giving to the rich? That was Monty Python’s “Dennis Moore” skit.
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Capt Dwayne Conyers
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3. Pence would not hesitate to assume the spot at the Resolute Desk.
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Amn Don Kem
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Seemed to have everything to do with the America they all seem to be throwing America under the bus it's shameful he's handed out Secrets right and left collusion with the Russian fire the FBI director and the next day has a meeting with Russia we're not allowed in the office but all the Russian newspapers run by wellstead of Russia are there how much more of this crap as an American people are we going to take
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Lots of liberal talking points, no facts.
SNAFU with the deranged left.
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COL Charles Williams
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No, never.
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