Do you think diehard Clinton and Trump supporters are completely blind to corruption, greed, and scandal?

Most well intended,respectful,obedient,complacent,citizens have never truly seen, understood let alone comprehended the size of our gov't corruption; then there are those who know very well all about the "secret society" servants. Will Trump expose the "shadow government" - dark side? Twitter -Trump see what tweets back.

All humans have flaws thus all candidates have flaws. A recent question on this forum asked if today's politicians could pass a background check. There were lots of opinions both ways. I for one would never run for office in this day and age. Both candidates for President went through the worst character assassinations I've ever seen in my lifetime. I'm guessing an overwhelming amount of information put out against each candidate was untrue. I tried to filter through the BS and chose who most closely reflected my views on important policy isssues. It was hard to do considering all the slander that was put forth as the "truth". Now we have a new President and his opponents still persist in fear mongering and sabotage rather than getting behind him to support his efforts. Had the other candidate won I'm sure it would have been the same. Personally, I didn't vote against anyone. I voted for the candidate of my choice based on my belief of what was best for the country. Both candidates had the courage to withstand the personal attacks and had the fortitude to campaign vigorously for what they believed in. I have gratitude to both for making that sacrifice for this country.

Running for public office in general has become more about marketing and spin than experience and ability. The front runners tend to be in possession of character traits that make them least desirable as a leader and more desirable as a celebrity.

Sp4 Byron Skinner I really think this question is irrelevant. Clinton spent her professional life as a public servant and First Lady. She was a known item and praise and criticism of her generally rundown party lines. She like President Gore won the popular vote. Donald Trump is a billionaire Business man who filed personal bankruptcy three times and thats about the extent of his public life. As a former businessman, retired I can say in all honesty we are all piers and cheaters, it all party of the game. Since President Elect won't be President until noon on January 20th., there is nothing to judge him by. I think all Americans should look at him as a blank sheet of paper until he "officially" takes office. The other intended question here are the supporters of both candidates. All in all they acted rather well. In recent memory the elections of 1960 and 1964 had far more vandalism, fighting and actual murder the the 2016 election. There was good reason that alcohol was not sold back then on election day.

No. They just don't care.

Our socialist intended progressive leadership has moved our patriotic base towards bigger government control compounded with a PC mentality. Today's leaders are moved by self interest and a power base devoted to corruptive behavior and party interest over the basics of constitional law. Outside the Military this deviantency is spreading it influence into our high levels of military leadership with its PC acceptance! Look at Hillary and her corrupt Clinton Foundation and the rest of her tenure of corruption and she was still able to run for president? Corruption is so deep, it has become acceptable!

I'm not sure how anyone could vote for either of these criminals. Vote Clinton, you must accept corruption, or vote Trump and you must accept fascism. This is why there are other candidates.

It's simple really which candidate has the best platform according to your beliefs all people are flawed and in today's world it's hard to hide past mistakes although one campaign has been all about cover up neither one is the savior but I know that with one I will keep my weapons so that's how I vote not on personality but on issues that affect me and my family

Sorry for this long paste - but good lord it is meaningful to me...
And let me just say this: If you’re a politician — not just in Washington but in business and industry, you have to be a politician — there are a lot of things that you have to do that you’re not proud of. There are a lot of compromises you have to make because it means that you can get this other thing over here. And if you think that you can go to fucking Washington and be rainbows and butterflies the whole time, you’re living in a fucking fantasy world. So now, having said that, think about what a female has to do with that: All of those compromises, all of that shit, double it by ten. And you get to understand who this woman is and how powerful, persuasive, brilliant, and resilient she is. Any female executive, anybody who has been put to the side — women, blacks, gays — for them to succeed in a white-male-dominated culture is an act of brilliance. Of resilience, of grit, of everything you can imagine. So, what do I think of Hillary? I think she’s fucking awesome. Is she in bed with Wall Street? Goddammit, I should hope so! You’ve got to dance with the devil. So which of the horrible people do you want? That’s more of the question. Do you want a pompous braggart who doesn’t know anything about diplomacy? Or do you want a badass bitch who knows how to get shit done? That’s really the question.

Sgt Barrett: To answer your question, No. Do you think that folks who choose to vote third party are ignoring reality, don't care about facts, or are more concerned about their personal honor than their country? It seems to me that your question and mine are two sides of the same coin. However, there is one big difference mine concerns itself with facts and the ultimate outcome for the country while yours picks on personal "flaws".