Posted on Feb 2, 2017
Do you think illegal immigrants should be able to use welfare/public assistance?
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Considering all the illegal immigrants in this country, do you think they should be able to use welfare or public assistance considering they aren't citizens and that many working Americans are denied welfare or public assistance.
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Illegal immigrants should not be able to access anything EXCEPT emergency life saving medical aid from any taxpayer supported organization/group
Illegal immigrants should not be able to access anything EXCEPT emergency life saving medical aid from any taxpayer supported organization/group
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SFC Charles Temm
SSG Edward Tilton - you ever work for Wal Mart? Or maybe you just get your info complete w/partisan shading from a non partisan source like a union or anti Wal Mart group? Where do you get this million a store "factoid" anyway?
I do work for Wal Mart, have for 16 plus years though in the logistics end. The people who work in the retail end make as much or more as anyone else in the industry and the insurance while not grand is better than most in said industry. It's an industry wide problem of very tight profit margins and increasing online competition. Worse Wal Mart has tried to go down the green & politically correct road which has crushed that margin ever smaller.
Requiring businesses to provide health care is working so well that folks like you demanded the government demand more services be added to it and then get into the business themselves...yeah it's working great too isn't it?
I do work for Wal Mart, have for 16 plus years though in the logistics end. The people who work in the retail end make as much or more as anyone else in the industry and the insurance while not grand is better than most in said industry. It's an industry wide problem of very tight profit margins and increasing online competition. Worse Wal Mart has tried to go down the green & politically correct road which has crushed that margin ever smaller.
Requiring businesses to provide health care is working so well that folks like you demanded the government demand more services be added to it and then get into the business themselves...yeah it's working great too isn't it?
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SSG Edward Tilton
You are aware that the American Taxpayer is paying for the Health Care of every Israeli citizen
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SPC Randy Torgerson
I guess you can always go live in Israel. I've been there, I don't want to live there....
BTW, cocaine is legal in some countries so should we make that legal here? Have you looked at the tax structure in Isael? They have a lot of other problems that we don't have here at least on the same scale...
BTW, cocaine is legal in some countries so should we make that legal here? Have you looked at the tax structure in Isael? They have a lot of other problems that we don't have here at least on the same scale...
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Not only no, but hell no! They came purposely illegally. We have hundreds of thousands of vets that are homeless, in need of health care and jobs. That is where the money should go!
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SSG Edward Tilton
That may take a while, but I read the real news. \http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/army-veteran-faces-deportation-to-mexico-after-serving-two-tours-in-afghanistan-a7614236.html
Veteran who fought twice in Afghanistan may be deported
A former soldier who served two tours in Afghanistan with the US military and where he suffered serious head injuries, is fighting an order to deport him to Mexico. Military veteran Army Private 1st class Miguel Perez was born in Mexico and grew up in Chicago. He sustained a brain injury on his second tour of duty and suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, his family said.
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SSG Edward Tilton
Service Members, Not Citizens: Meet The Veterans Who Have Been Deported
Military service does not guarantee U.S. citizenship, which has meant a group of veterans has wound up together just over the border in Tijuana, Mexico, at a refuge they've dubbed "The Bunker."
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MCPO Roger Collins
Note the date, were you complaining when Obama did this for years?
https://www.google.com/amp/http://www.latimes.com/nation/immigration/la-na-ff-deported-vets-20160327-story,amp.html
https://www.google.com/amp/http://www.latimes.com/nation/immigration/la-na-ff-deported-vets-20160327-story,amp.html
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SPC Randy Torgerson
Haha, Edward Tilton won't let me respond to him anymore, maybe I was too tough on him... His veterans being deported comment and my challenge has led him to produce an article from NPR that states a few men used illegal documents to enlist in the military but then were found out at some point and deported. Well I don't think that qualifies for the spirit of our conversation when you said Veterans being deported. You neglected to tell us that these men used false government documents to enlist.
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You cannot mince the words,"illegal",and,"immigrant"... It is like mixing water and oil... Illegal entry into our country or any other country,is considered an invasion,(as if someone illegally enters your home... Immigration is,an invite to formally be vetted and follow the proper procedures in documenting one's self... An invader is to be shot on site,plain and simple... Semper Fi
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Get them to a detention center, process them for return back to where they come from. Put some sustenance in them and load them up and send them home..
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Hell no!! This service should only be used by poor, legal citizens of the United States of America.
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If there is one thing I've learned in economics it's that 99% of the time, if you financially incentivize something, you'll get more of it. If you offer welfare to poor people who come to America, you'll get more poor people coming to America. Assuming society believes that we should encourage more net contributors to come to America so that the economy grows, rather than people who are net drains and drag down the economy, putting a moratorium on government assistance of any kind for a fixed period of time for immigrants and their children (whether born here or elsewhere), would be the best way to reduce the financial incentives for net drainers to come to America.
It's important to note that this policy wouldn't affect those who come with nothing but work hard to make a living, like the family depicted in the song "Kenji."
Of course, if society really wants to increase the number of poor in America, then the policy would be reversed into something more similar to the welfare laws in Hawai'i, where I've met many mentally ill people who had their family buy them a one-way ticket, and they went straight to the welfare office for their food stamp card with no proof of residency required. This was a very effective way to increase both the tax rate and and the homeless population.
It's important to note that this policy wouldn't affect those who come with nothing but work hard to make a living, like the family depicted in the song "Kenji."
Of course, if society really wants to increase the number of poor in America, then the policy would be reversed into something more similar to the welfare laws in Hawai'i, where I've met many mentally ill people who had their family buy them a one-way ticket, and they went straight to the welfare office for their food stamp card with no proof of residency required. This was a very effective way to increase both the tax rate and and the homeless population.
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MAJ (Join to see)
It's like little kids. They'll do whatever they can get away with. Works with e1-e4 as well.
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