Posted on May 6, 2015
Do you think Soldiers are fully prepared to be competitive in real life?
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You can't really look at troops in general, but rather the individual. A transitional program is provided before a troop is separating, what they take from that is up to them.
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It's all based on the person, and what they did! Any job in the mitary has ups and downs. It depends on also what they did to further them selves during there time in!
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This is specious at best. Sounds like a civilian with an agenda and has yet to qualify himself or his experiences.
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SPC Marwan Sweedan
good question Sgt. the answer is yes they were. because for soldiers who are not advancing in military because they are lazy or slacking back expect them to fail everywhere regardless.
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I'm a vet too, Mr. Sweedan. I have to respectfully disagree. I understand what you mean regarding falling behind the power curve. However, discrimination, good-old boy networks, ulterior motives, and laziness exist on every level within the military. I've known Leaders that did "well" just by meeting the standard. The Promotion Point System and retention programs require the Chain of Command to make a "Command" decision to promote and retain a Soldier. When someone fails to meet a standard, the CoC must decide to push through, retest, or no-go. There are Soldiers in their current position because they were inefficient in their primary duty or MOS.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I am saying sometimes it's bit more complicated than lazy = failure.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I am saying sometimes it's bit more complicated than lazy = failure.
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I would like to respond to my question and perhaps start a serious discussion that can lead to presenting this matter to the decision makers.
When start joining any division of the service, the level and the quality of the training the soldier gets concise to a particular mission decided by the SOP of his/her MOS. That sort of training limited to a specific role and/or a task. Most of the time, this type of training and its application aside of many years of military experience does not mean anything when trying to advance and compete with civilians academically or in the job market. Simply, because companies and academia have a pre-requisite and qualifications for a position of desire that most of the soldiers do not have and can not get while in the Army.
As the soldiers perform PMCS or doing field training, for example, the civilians use equivalent time building a firm resume for the job market and keeping abreast of times. And let's all face it, the transition process for soldiers is just another bureaucratic step in our archaic governmental system. Most of the units if not all does not pay attention to that critical level in soldiers' life. Technically they are setting their troops for failure in the upcoming mission.
to be frank, "most" companies and university programs will thank you for your service when they send you the letter of rejection.
When start joining any division of the service, the level and the quality of the training the soldier gets concise to a particular mission decided by the SOP of his/her MOS. That sort of training limited to a specific role and/or a task. Most of the time, this type of training and its application aside of many years of military experience does not mean anything when trying to advance and compete with civilians academically or in the job market. Simply, because companies and academia have a pre-requisite and qualifications for a position of desire that most of the soldiers do not have and can not get while in the Army.
As the soldiers perform PMCS or doing field training, for example, the civilians use equivalent time building a firm resume for the job market and keeping abreast of times. And let's all face it, the transition process for soldiers is just another bureaucratic step in our archaic governmental system. Most of the units if not all does not pay attention to that critical level in soldiers' life. Technically they are setting their troops for failure in the upcoming mission.
to be frank, "most" companies and university programs will thank you for your service when they send you the letter of rejection.
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"Simply because companies and academia have a prerequisite and qualifications for a position of desire that most of the Soldiers do not have and cannot get while in the Army" is total bull shit. Most junior NCOs and Senior NCOs gain experience as a First Line Supervisor which can be translated into the civilian sector. On a daily basis they deal with financial management, personnel management, problem solving, have great analytical skills, time management, resource allocation and management, some project management, crisis resolution, general logistics, regulation compliance, facilitating improved efficiency and performance, ensuring adherence to organizational goals to support the mission statement, mentoring and coaching, personnel training and devlopment, solid skills in communication, and business analysis. So, explain to me how our skills do not translate into the civilian sector. I just listed quite a few that were translated for a civilian. Your argument is invalid as even the lowest ranking Soldier squires these skills as well, just not as refined as those of higher ranking.
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And buy the way, I have a BSBA to back my experiences up. I was not "rejected" from academia as you so proclaim!!
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SPC Marwan Sweedan
SFC Randy Smith, what seems BS to you, is a full-scale problem for others. First line supervisor that many NCOs have is a job quality, not a job skill. It does not compensate for lacking technical skills on your resume. You, not knowing the difference is the problem I am addressing. Skills like reading and analyse lab data, maintaining turbines, or extrapolating results by using statistical programs. A freshly discharged soldier E-6 and below will have a challenge competing with one studying the things I mentioned thoroughly.
Congratulation SFC on your BSBA, a person in your position and responsibilities taking BSBA within nine years while serving in the army at a time of war is impressive, KUDUS for you sir. However, if you submit an application for a graduate degree that require a research statement. Or if you apply for a high-tech corporation; make no mistake other candidates can be a freshly graduate person with double major and research experience. Or perhaps you will challenge a person with a master degree with five years experience ( that is equal to 9 years you spent to get your BSBA). Back then, you will feel the heat and you will start to think differently. Besides, the corporation will weigh your age vs. those candidates to see who is a good investment in the long run. And because OUR companies and institutes, unfortunately, think productivity over patriotism most of the time they will accept a highly qualified person coming from overseas and sponsor their visa vs. taking a veteran with poor quality. You can not blame them though since companies now operate in a global market. Imagine you send your E-5 and below who have five years or less in service and no degree what so ever to such job market without proper guidance and preparation! If you do so, Then you just set your soldier to failure.
Congratulation SFC on your BSBA, a person in your position and responsibilities taking BSBA within nine years while serving in the army at a time of war is impressive, KUDUS for you sir. However, if you submit an application for a graduate degree that require a research statement. Or if you apply for a high-tech corporation; make no mistake other candidates can be a freshly graduate person with double major and research experience. Or perhaps you will challenge a person with a master degree with five years experience ( that is equal to 9 years you spent to get your BSBA). Back then, you will feel the heat and you will start to think differently. Besides, the corporation will weigh your age vs. those candidates to see who is a good investment in the long run. And because OUR companies and institutes, unfortunately, think productivity over patriotism most of the time they will accept a highly qualified person coming from overseas and sponsor their visa vs. taking a veteran with poor quality. You can not blame them though since companies now operate in a global market. Imagine you send your E-5 and below who have five years or less in service and no degree what so ever to such job market without proper guidance and preparation! If you do so, Then you just set your soldier to failure.
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SPC Marwan Sweedan I doubt your veracity and your expertise. I heard this shit at the end of the Vietnam War and it seems lately this crap is escalating. What is your real agenda?
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