Posted on Aug 15, 2017
Does a mobilization to Kuwait for 400 days count as a deployment?
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Will I receive a deployment patch and a bar on my ASU’s?
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The first thing you need to worry about is.........................DOING YOUR DAMN JOB TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. Worry about that other needless shit after you get back.
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SGT Sean Goodrow, please fill me in on these benefits of having a patch on your right shoulder. It sure hasn't helped me get promoted. And if it meant my lost friends five minutes with the children they have not seen in over 24 years, I'd give up the patch.
I'm not saying his questions aren't legit. I'm saying, concentrate on the job at hand and come home safe. Then worry about the other stuff.
Let me put it this way. That deployment patch isn't going to do his family any good if that's what he's constantly worried about and ends up getting himself or someone else killed or maimed.
I'm not saying his questions aren't legit. I'm saying, concentrate on the job at hand and come home safe. Then worry about the other stuff.
Let me put it this way. That deployment patch isn't going to do his family any good if that's what he's constantly worried about and ends up getting himself or someone else killed or maimed.
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We both know that those without are looked at differently than those with, and that opinions are listened to differently. Pretending otherwise is just disingenuous.
I don't see the point in jumping down someone's throat about "needless shit", your words, for an absolutely relevant question.
As experienced soldiers, we also know that if you trust in "the system" to tell you what you're entitled to, you'll never get it, and if you wait until afterwards, it's already too late. Know what you're entitled to, don't we always tell junior soldiers this about...every other benefit?
I don't see the point in jumping down someone's throat about "needless shit", your words, for an absolutely relevant question.
As experienced soldiers, we also know that if you trust in "the system" to tell you what you're entitled to, you'll never get it, and if you wait until afterwards, it's already too late. Know what you're entitled to, don't we always tell junior soldiers this about...every other benefit?
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Those without that are SSG and above with more than about 6-7 years in may be looked at differently I agree they appear to have shammed their career. But a PVT thru SGT (2LT or 1LT) with less than 4 years I don't look down on.
But SGT Sean Goodrow, I'm going to assume that you've never deployed so hence the hard vibes I get from your posts. I've known great leaders without deployment/combat experience and some real losers that had a deployment or two under their belt. I judge by leadership ability. Not what's on the right shoulder or chest above their U.S. Army tape.
But SGT Sean Goodrow, I'm going to assume that you've never deployed so hence the hard vibes I get from your posts. I've known great leaders without deployment/combat experience and some real losers that had a deployment or two under their belt. I judge by leadership ability. Not what's on the right shoulder or chest above their U.S. Army tape.
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SFC Harry H.
SSG (Join to see) - I'd agree, but one could easily juggle the two. The question and the mission. What was the sole reason for the CIB? It was to boost morale and increase the prestige of service in the Infantry. If a person is a little down about deploying and the thought of receiving a combat patch motivates them. Then I see no harm. It's not like that question is going to hinder all ability to stay focused.
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If you are talking about a combat patch, no Kuwait by itself does not count any more, heck I was there in 2014 it was like being on base back home to a point. Are you Active or Reserve, that will control how many days your deployment is. The reserves started doing 9 month tours in 2014 for some missions.
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If memory has not failed me, in late 2013 or early 2014 a memo came out taking Kuwait and Qatar and a few other places off the as combat or hazard zones. I know we started out in Afghanistan in January 2014 and got hazard pay, with the draw down, we moved the mission to Arifjan Kuwait for the last month of the mission and when we got back to the states they collected our hazard pay for that month in Kuwait.
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I was there in 2012-2013 and we still received a patch, granted it was my own unit patch because I was with the HQ, but it was a rotation or two later that the patch went away with Hostile Fire pay. Arifjan is a PCS location now and I've seen civilian contractors bring their families over, like small children. They have the option to live off post....not a hostile environment if your families can come over, just my opinion.
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I was there in late (sept/oct) of 2014, it was not on the list for combat zones anymore, basically like getting sent to Germany or Korea now. If you had to go into Iraq for 30 days or more that counted.
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Strictly speaking, "deployment" refers to activities required to move military personnel and materials from a home installation to a specified destination. For all practical purposes it is a deployment. Does it meet all the criteria for a patch is another matter.
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It's not considered a combat deployment, so you won't receive a combat patch.
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You've likely heard that some people did get them years ago. True, it used to be that way.
As of now, no, you will not. It's not a combat zone.
As of now, no, you will not. It's not a combat zone.
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Kuwait is no longer considered an area to get a deployment patch. I have heard if you do rotate into an area that is considered a combat zone for a very short time, you can get one.
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Yes. A "Mobilization" is being either activated from Compo 2 or Compo 3 and being placed on active duty. This can happen where the Service Member is stationed CONUS or OCONUS.
A "Deployment" is when the Service Member is mobilized and then stationed OCONUS. They are "Deployed".
Here are two regulations which will answer your question about the SSI-FWTS and stripes/bars:
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Worry about that when you get home. You are paid to do a job. Do the job to the best of your ability and learn to do it better than you have done before.
Do a little reading. It will help you at your next board.
A "Deployment" is when the Service Member is mobilized and then stationed OCONUS. They are "Deployed".
Here are two regulations which will answer your question about the SSI-FWTS and stripes/bars:
DA Pam 670-1
AR 670-1
Worry about that when you get home. You are paid to do a job. Do the job to the best of your ability and learn to do it better than you have done before.
Do a little reading. It will help you at your next board.
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negative its like when I deployed to Bosnia back in 01. got nothing for but a NATO award.
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If you are still Active Duty, ask your unit Admin officer. BTW, never let anyone shame you for doing your duty and doing your job standing up. When you put your uniform on, be proud and stand up straight and if a service ribbon or campaign badge is missing, Mister "Your out of Uniform". Fix it on the double.
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I would think so. It's a continuous time and I take it you "extended" from your first deployment or mobilization?
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I volunteered for this deployment so I’m not with their unit until we leave. But I’ll be totally honest I don’t know a lot about deployments and whether I get a patch or not I’ll still be satisfied doing what I joined for. It’ll just be nice
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Was deployed to Kuwait in 2002-2003 pre Iraq and was forward deployed yp Afghanistan. Got the combat patch for Afghanistan deployment but not Kuwait. I was there when doha was standing down and arifjon was being stood up.
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It counts as a deployment on your dd214 as well as your erb. You will not receive a patch though since as of fy14 Kuwait is an active duty PCS location for 1 year rotations, guard and reserve will complete 9 month missions there, and it is not a combat zone. You will receive the GWOT as well as the GWOT Expeditionary medal among several others when you return stateside. I just returned home from arifjan a little over a year ago.
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Although you don't get a deplorable Kent patch I believe you still get a GWOT Expeditionary Medal afterward. I consider any overseas assignments as being " deployed" just not a Combat one unless you get sent further while assigned there.
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