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As the PT NCO in my unit I do PRT but there are times I deviate from PRT and do other exercises to break up the monotony and make PT interesting. Does anyone else do this or do you just strictly follow PRT?
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Posted >1 y ago
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What sort of exercises do you add? Is it something from another style (Crossfit, etc.)?
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I usually add in basic exercises like plank, side plank, and some old school exercises like side starddle hops, etc.
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Unfortunately PT in my current unit never really changes and we stick to PRT almost exclusively. I really miss my old unit where we would do things like crossfit, Pool PT, Squad runs, etc. Also my current unit does Company level PT everyday except for Tuesday's when we do PLT PT. My previous unit only did company PT when we did company runs, everything else was either at the PLT or SQD Level.
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NCOA Camp Buerhing, Kuwait we follow FM 7-22 , no deviations. What does your unit SOP states?
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Something rarely mentioned, it seems: Combatives is a key component of PRT. There is no reason you cannot incorporate it weekly or monthly. You also have obstacle courses and training exercises. PRT is meant to prepare one for the rigors of combat. Why not run combat scenarios?
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No. It's pretty satisfying when done right, and it gives troops the sense they can learn it and eventually get up in front of the formation and lead it themselves. When I have only one Joe, I won't do the formation or call cadence, but I will lead them through the exercises, in order.
I have long felt that PRT was one of the better programs implemented by the Army. When done right, it is a solid workout. To anyone who thinks it isn't, my argument will always be "so why didn't you pass me?"
It's a solid workout that does not leave you sore, but rather it wakes you up. The Army needs more MFTs to explain proper form better. It's all about training body mechanics.
As NCOs, we enforce the standard. Part of leadership means dragging Joe kicking and screaming through this "boring" PT program. It's not even that boring; if you study the manual, you'll find that there is more than enough meat to challenge your Soldiers. This is where leadership comes in.
I have long felt that PRT was one of the better programs implemented by the Army. When done right, it is a solid workout. To anyone who thinks it isn't, my argument will always be "so why didn't you pass me?"
It's a solid workout that does not leave you sore, but rather it wakes you up. The Army needs more MFTs to explain proper form better. It's all about training body mechanics.
As NCOs, we enforce the standard. Part of leadership means dragging Joe kicking and screaming through this "boring" PT program. It's not even that boring; if you study the manual, you'll find that there is more than enough meat to challenge your Soldiers. This is where leadership comes in.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG (Join to see) - You have definitely drank the Kool-Aid and toe the party line.
One question, since I cannot see your entire profile - Have you earned your EFMB?
If not, I would suggest that you stop making using the "so why didn't you pass me?" line of argument.
What does "pass me" mean? The score on your APFT, on the Land Navigation Course, on a run, on a road march?
Note that to earn the EFMB (according to the 2011 version of the pamphlet) the APFT test scores are 60 for each event for a total of 180.
The question is are you physically fit enough to accomplish your job and mission? I could care less that you could score 150% on each event of the APFT, IF you can not be AT the objective ON TIME, and ABLE to accomplish your mission. I would much rather have a soldier that can pass at the minimum ALL tasks; than a soldier that can pass the APFT at world class athlete levels, and fails a single task outside the APFT realm.
So with all other things being equal, who would you rather have leading you? A soldier with an EFMB (average APFT), or without an EFMB (max APFT score)?
One question, since I cannot see your entire profile - Have you earned your EFMB?
If not, I would suggest that you stop making using the "so why didn't you pass me?" line of argument.
What does "pass me" mean? The score on your APFT, on the Land Navigation Course, on a run, on a road march?
Note that to earn the EFMB (according to the 2011 version of the pamphlet) the APFT test scores are 60 for each event for a total of 180.
The question is are you physically fit enough to accomplish your job and mission? I could care less that you could score 150% on each event of the APFT, IF you can not be AT the objective ON TIME, and ABLE to accomplish your mission. I would much rather have a soldier that can pass at the minimum ALL tasks; than a soldier that can pass the APFT at world class athlete levels, and fails a single task outside the APFT realm.
So with all other things being equal, who would you rather have leading you? A soldier with an EFMB (average APFT), or without an EFMB (max APFT score)?
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Yes, absolutely. It gets boring after a while. You definitely have to switch it up and get creative when it comes to PT. It keeps the morale high and the Soldiers motivated when you can actually have a fun and productive PT session.
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my unit's 1SG took us through a really tough yoga (yes, yoga) workout one time, spur of the moment. i thought i was going to die. my whole body was at muscle failure.
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I used to add lunges, jumping lunges, squats, and all types of ab exercises. I was also known for PT in kit (at least vest and bucket).
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I use to do that when I was the NCO in charge of PT. You have to do different thing during PT to make it fun and get 100% corporation from everyone. The basic push-ups, sit-ups, running and the other exercises like the hello dolly, wind mills, small circles to the front, and others like that get really boring. Your doing the right thing by changing it up once in awhile.
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Not the we do much PRT in the Reserves, but when we do, I rarely lead it. That said, next time I do, I plan on using the time NOT to do PRT or PT (because that's out these days); instead I plan on using that time to conduct a class on Army history, specifically how physical training was done prior to the adoption of PRT...it's not PT, it's history!
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SGT Dave Tracy
See the blue cord on my shoulder in my picture...yeah, I have familiarity with that humor. I also have familiarity with Infantry's distain for PRT (my last Active unit refused to do PRT) so I'm somewhat surprised you would make a snarky comment to my tongue-in-cheek answer to the question of if people deviate from PRT (and based on the responses, many do).
If you want a more serious idea of this NCO's point of view about knowing and doing PRT, you can see my response in this other thread: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-prt-worth-doing-at-a-monthly-drill-for-national-guard-and-reserves
If you want a more serious idea of this NCO's point of view about knowing and doing PRT, you can see my response in this other thread: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-prt-worth-doing-at-a-monthly-drill-for-national-guard-and-reserves
Is PRT worth doing at a monthly drill for National Guard and Reserves? | RallyPoint
Can we change the habits of soldiers who don't train on their own? Is it worth the risk of injury with soldiers who only worry about physical fitness once a month? On the other side, is this a good display of leadership by example? The soldiers who want to improve will know people who can help. Morale can be boosted by effective PT as well. What are your thoughts?
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