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As the PT NCO in my unit I do PRT but there are times I deviate from PRT and do other exercises to break up the monotony and make PT interesting. Does anyone else do this or do you just strictly follow PRT?
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For my part, when we do PRT, we do PRT. There's value in following the program, especially when you have younger Soldiers preparing for a school. But when we don't do PRT, we eliminate references to it in order to ensure we don't confuse people with what is PRT and what is not. We will do a fun run, some sort of cross fit training like MAJ Weiss said, or maybe yoga. As a Reservist, it's not so much of a problem when you're only doing PRT once a quarter, but being creative sure helps when mobilizing.
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FM 7-22 authorizes modifications to the program. As always, you may add to but not take away. If your adjustments align with the overall intent there should not be an issue. Just read the FM and if a master fitness trainer is avail get with them from further guidance in planning your sessions.
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MAJ (Join to see)
It is really disappointing to read all the comments on this thread from officers and NCOs who clearly have not read or do not understand FM 7-22, which establishes a very flexible PT program. I'm not sure what a "deviation from PRT" would even be, given the program's flexibility.
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SSG (Join to see)
I agree with you 100%, sir. It can also be tailored to unit METL quite handily. Units need to take the MFT program more seriously; once someone explains the rationale for everything, Soldiers resist it a lot less. I have seen people that go to MFT to check the block and get the points, but they don't apply that knowledge to the unit's PT program.
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I agree that things need to change to break up the monotony. When I was in command I would try and do combat focused PT once a quarter. This would involve various physical challenges, ie. litter carry, obstacles, HMMWV push, cannon (105mm) push, etc. The Soldiers seemed to enjoy it and made it a competition among their gun crews and platoons. A couple of the battalions in which I served had their own style of combat PT competitions as well. The standard PRT gets boring and really doesn't seem to do a whole lot for total body fitness.
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If we do PRT, we do the warm-up exercises and then do different exercises, mostly running. My section is weak at running so I run them. On those runs we pull off to the side, knock out push-ups, and sit-ups and while we are waiting on stragglers we run in place or do half-jacks and mountain climbers to keep our heart rate up until they catch up and do their push-ups/sit-ups. if we aren't doing that, we are doing sprints or stairs but I always incorporate the total body concept so not every day is only a run day
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All these "experts" talking about physical fitness, PFT (both the Physical Fitness Test and Physical Fitness Training), the Master Fitness Trainer & Program, and the current PRT (as opposed to PT). There are only three items of good that has come from this latest round of craziness (my preference would be to call it a debacle); they are - a slight knowledge of nutrition, injury control (?), and a return to emphasis of training to standard.
But most of the information presented through this program is white-washed BS. The current reference manuals, FMs, TCs, etc. have so much "New Age" BS and some political correctness thrown in that almost EVERYONE does not know which end is up.
Everyone wants to think that their way is better, and that the old methods do not work. If you really take an objective look at it, those individuals are blinded by their ego and their desire to impress. (If the shoe fits, wear it. Just do not complain to me, been there, done that.)
To really fit into the equation that is being espoused at this point in time, the powers that be should bring back the old 4 event APFT; the run, dodge and jump, the inverted crawl, the horizontal ladder, and the 2-mile run. If you espouse the philosophy of Warrior Skills and Tasks, you may see and understand why I made this statement, otherwise... If you can truly appreciate and understand why the Army went from the 4 event APFT to the current 3 event APFT, we might have a chance.
Does any one wonder why one of the exercises that Jack LaLanne promoted and used extensively was the "Side Straddle Hop"?
But most of the information presented through this program is white-washed BS. The current reference manuals, FMs, TCs, etc. have so much "New Age" BS and some political correctness thrown in that almost EVERYONE does not know which end is up.
Everyone wants to think that their way is better, and that the old methods do not work. If you really take an objective look at it, those individuals are blinded by their ego and their desire to impress. (If the shoe fits, wear it. Just do not complain to me, been there, done that.)
To really fit into the equation that is being espoused at this point in time, the powers that be should bring back the old 4 event APFT; the run, dodge and jump, the inverted crawl, the horizontal ladder, and the 2-mile run. If you espouse the philosophy of Warrior Skills and Tasks, you may see and understand why I made this statement, otherwise... If you can truly appreciate and understand why the Army went from the 4 event APFT to the current 3 event APFT, we might have a chance.
Does any one wonder why one of the exercises that Jack LaLanne promoted and used extensively was the "Side Straddle Hop"?
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG John Wanczowski - What is real interesting about your statement, is that it has been like that for a very long time. Then (my time period - mid 70s and during Vietnam (60s)) and now most "junior" leaders are not taught appropriately by their leaders. If you were able to look at APFT and related manuals from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and the past 15 years, you will find that variety has always been there. Some of you may be surprised at the variety of exercises and physical fitness activities in those "old" manuals. As some of you may have noticed, a properly run physical fitness program, can actually be a moral booster, and a poorly run program a moral buster. The biggest problem years ago and still continues today, what is being conducted for physical fitness training (PRT is too politically correct (and not used properly anyway), to be the proper term) is mandated/dictated from the upper levels of the chain of command at the Corps, Division, and Brigade level or equivalents. Their guidance has usually been - "I want to see x, x, x, and a run as part of every units PT/PRT program" - which has the effect that only those items will be done and other items in the program are left to lapse since there is just not enough time, and then there are very few below the level that made the dictate will even attempt to deviate from it.
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Wait, people actually do PRT?
Like most groups, we do warm ups and cool downs but the only 2 times I've actually done PRT was in basic and BLC
Like most groups, we do warm ups and cool downs but the only 2 times I've actually done PRT was in basic and BLC
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SPC Alexander Brandt
I wish we lessened it. Our leadership always seems afraid to deviate from PRT, scared that some bigwig officer will walk by and say, "Soldiers ENJOYING PT!? Article fifteen!"
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SSG (Join to see)
SPC Alexander Brandt - That's the wrong attitude. If you had someone who knew what he was doing running it, I doubt you would hate it so much.
Also, people seem to forget that Combatives is a part of PRT as well.
Also, people seem to forget that Combatives is a part of PRT as well.
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i deviate from PRT only because the average PT score is too low PRT works well at the beginning but its only to sustain once you hit that sustainment PRT is almost useless that's why i push soldiers to their limits do didfferent exercises body will always adapt so you need to change it up
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Its been too long, I forget what PT is like. Although I do do a lot of walking!
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