Posted on Jul 31, 2018
Does someone qualify for the CIB for deploying as an 11B without being MOS qualified?
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I have a soldier who volunteered for a deployment as an 11B but is still technically 12B and came back asking if he should have the CIB. I told him i didnt think so but that I'd research for him. Since he was "infantry" on the deployment and with an infantry unit and perfomed the tasks of an Infantrymen does he qualify for the CIB or just the CAB? Since my knowledge on the CIB is limited to what I've read any input would be appreciated.
11B: Infantryman
Combat Infantry Badge (CIB)
Infantry
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Just being an 11 series and in a hostile fire zone does not qualify anyone for a CIB. You must engage the enemy in combat with direct fire ( mortars,arty do not count.) I think the requirements are the same except for all other mos b
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CPT William Jones
This is a different CPT william jones. Guess I will have to use middle initial. This two year old reply is incorrect. The first requirement is to have an 11 or 18 Mos second is be serving in a Toe infantry slot in unit. Third is have ground combat with an enemy force,. No exceptions if you do not have the mos you are not qualified. not in an infantry slot no cib eligibility. No contacat with armed shooting enemy force no CIB. If any one requirement not Met NO CIB it is very simple and exceptions are not allowed IN an armor unit . Combat Engineer or Mp unit nor even Arty either.
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If he has the infantry as a secondary MOS and served a minimum of 30 days in a combat zone and the unit he deployed with received the CIB then he should have one to. Just my opinion.
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To the best of my knowledge, only those in SF, outside of actually being 11 series, qualify for the CIB. But I have seen SF personnel wearing CAB’s, so maybe the standard has changed? Or fewer are being awarded. Your engineer could make a strong case for a CIB, personally I think any scout, engineer etc... while actively participating as an Infantryman in a Infantry unit should be awarded, regardless of MOS. But I’m thinking he’ll be awarded the CAB instead.
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NO! They can get a Combat Action Badge, which is an equivalent award. And they may be able to convert it later.
The big question is: How does one deploy without an MOS?
The big question is: How does one deploy without an MOS?
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SPC Chris Ison
We were not allowed to deploy without an Army MOS in my NG unit. It had to do with not being able to prove you had gone through IET.
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I would have to say no he doesn't qualify. The badge is awarded to primary MOS infantrymen and Special Forces soldiers in the rank of colonel and below, who fought in active ground combat while supporting an actual Infantry Mission and assigned as a member of either an Infantry, Ranger or Special Forces unit, of brigade size or smaller, any time after 6 December 1941. He would be put in for a CAB instead given he was actually engaged. Our admin denied my 11B's the CIB because the BDE was supporting a convoy escort mission. They were slapped in the face with CAB's. Your Soldier would have had to be an 11B during the deployment.
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SPC Chris Ison
That is absolutely horseshit. What constitutes an "infantry" mission? MSR security sounds like an infantry mission to me.
I would appeal that decision, it is horse shit.
I would appeal that decision, it is horse shit.
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CPT William Jones
If the convoy was ambushed and they responded they were qualified for CIB I would think
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I had many Soldiers serve in capacity as Infantry during conflict while assigned or attached. They all received the CAB following contact. It is clear that the first criteria is to be 11 or 18, not just performing in the role. He served honorable and should have received the CAB which should indicate his role. Be proud of service, it is really not about the reward. Thank you for your service.
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No!! I had a soldier who was not 11B qualified due to a clerical error. He was awarded the CAB even though he had the necessary requirements to receive the CIB. But because there was no proof he was award the CAB. He did not earn a CIB until his second deployment.
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