Posted on Mar 2, 2016
PFC Alexander Oliveira
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Why don't we pay more attention and put more focus on school, workplace, and home shootings? And are we noticing a pattern of domestic terrorist? Or am I the only one noticing the armed white males shooting up a movie theater in Colorado, Sandy Hook elementary, UCSB, the Michigan uber driver, I could go on.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
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Terrorism is a real and significant threat, but terrorism works primarily through psychological methods... making people respond disproportionally to the events themselves. That is the whole point of terrorism. If we begin to let the threat of terrorism change our daily habits, change our schools, workplaces, and our homes, then we lose. There are 80,000 people a year who die from alcohol related incidents, 32,000 from car accidents, and 200,000 from medical mistakes, while terrorism, as tragic and sensational as it is, is in the handful or dozens. You are more likely to die just falling down your own stairs or by accidental drowning in a swimming pool. I'm not by any means trying to downplay the importance of defeating terrorist groups, nor the tragedies that they are capable of inflicting. When left unchecked, they can build up devastating capacities which are a national threat. We have to continue to deter and fight terrorist groups, but not change our lifestyle because of a movie theater shooting or a Michigan Uber driver.
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COL Ted Mc
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LTC Yinon Weiss - Major; You are correct. The terrorists DO NOT win unless "we" let them win and "we" let them win by changing the way we live, work, and play through fear of what "they" MIGHT do.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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White people shooting up people are not terrorist, they're mentally unstable. Black people are considered thugs. Mexicans are considered drug dealers. Asian is considered suicidal. And only Muslim would be consider terrorist.
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It may be racist.. however I'm sure it is in the mainstream media guidebook, because that's the way it usually pans out.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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I'm just stating the obvious....everything we already know but were afraid to repeat for fear of being label a racist. As for me, I'm not a racist, I do not see black and white because I have 3 color TVs in my home.

'Trump, who after almost every mass shooting has responded to questions on gun control with an answer about mental health, also noted the need for mental health institution reform. His plan states that "[f]amilies, without the ability to get the information needed to help those who are ailing, are too often not given the tool to help their loved ones." Beyond this statement, however, Trump gives no solution. Instead, writing that "there are promising reforms being developed in Congress that should receive bi-partisan support."'....http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-reveals-details-his-health-care-plan-n530701?cid=sm_fb
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PO2 Steven Erickson
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SP5 (Join to see) - Here... go ahead and use this next time! lol
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PO2 Steven Erickson - Thanks - I needed that!
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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No Argument From me. Domestic Terrorism Enabled and Empowered by the NRA.
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COL Ted Mc
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SSG (Join to see) - Staff; Requiring that there be an OVERRIDING "political" motivation before you classify an action as "terrorism" makes a lot of sense to me and would probably clarify the discussion quite a bit by severing off those who kill people simply because they want to watch a different TV program or to "get back" at them because they have been bullied (or can't get laid).
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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COL Ted Mc - Makes sense to me. Using Violence for a Political Goal would be a very good basic definition of Terrorism in my Book.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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COL Ted Mc - I'd give you a big thumbs up but used my Quota for today already.
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It's not always easy to distinguish the OVERRIDING motivation though, for example the San Bernadino shooting. If they had simply wanted to inflict maximum causalities to cause maximum terror, why not a busy shopping mall? Instead of easily killing hundreds they choose to go after people they knew and despised. The couple had a total of 1,600 rounds (1,400 for the rifles and 200 for the handguns) with them at the time of the shootout. 14 people were killed, it could have been far worse had the primary motivation actually been terror instead of revenge.
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Domestic terrorism, why arent we as a nation more concerned about the battle at home than the one that might come from abroad?
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PFC Alexander Oliveira - Private; It makes people uncomfortable to think that "people like us" could do bad things, so the easiest thing to do is not to think about it as much as you can.
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
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I couldn't agree more. terrorism has no race, no ethnicity, no nationality, its an umbrella term including all humans.
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SGT Roberto Mendoza-Diaz
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Not only white people but people of every color, race or ethnicity.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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Great post and I think that all of us are very concerned about what is happening around us - more and more each and every day. All of us have to stay vigilant.
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
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thanks!
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COL Ted Mc
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski - Spec; Be ALERT but do NOT be AFRAID.
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SFC Chris Horton
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Check out the Dept. of Justice website. There's a lot of info on whats happening and how its being dealt with at a national level. Theres more to the story than white males shooting places up.
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PO1 Nathan Watts
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Those of us working directly in the Security Field are dedicated to implement solutions, procedures, and public education in order to facilitate the very change of awareness that you speak of.
An individual is smart and can be reasoned with whereas the masses are slow to learn and prone to simply "go with the herd."
Have faith - it will take time - but we *are* making progress.
- Senior Security Consultant
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COL Ted Mc
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PO1 Nathan Watts - PO; And we should always remember "The Security Officer's Law" - Threats to security WILL be found.
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
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A nut committing a mass shooting for whatever reason does not equal terrorism. Terrorists seek to achieve a political objective through their actions. Mass shooters are typically just mad at the world and want to go out in a blaze of "glory".
They are not equivalent, or even close cousins. The only thing they have in common is a body count.
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
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COL Ted Mc - that's the description of the guy who shot up uscb a couple years ago to a fucking T
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PFC Alexander Oliveira - Private; Sad, isn't it?
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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COL Ted Mc - I can only address the two mass shooting in my Neighborhood, One was a White Fired Private Security Officer from Target Ward Parkway Shopping Center the other more recent was a KKK Person from Southern Missouri came up here to kill some "Jews" so he went after the Jewish Community Center and the Jewish Old Folks Home. With only that to base my Opinion On White Idiots with Guns are the Problem in my Neighborhood.
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COL Ted Mc
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel - PO; And when you toss in the cases of children shooting other children over seemingly petty annoyances/disputes you can probably expand that to "People who thing that the appropriate way of dealing with anyone who differs from/with them is by shooting them".
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