E7 in 7 years?

TSgt Joshua Copeland, typically when you hear the term 7-in-7, it is referring to individuals that make E7 in under 8 years (ie. 7 years + some months). It's quite rare to find individuals that make it in under 7 years, but it does happen. With that being said, as of the 2014 board, the average TIS for a Soldier being promoted to E7 was 13+ years and E8 was 19+ years.

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When people find out that I was an E8 prior to commissioning, I am often asked how I was able to promote as quickly as I did and I give everyone a similar answer that sounds something like this:

In order to promote quickly in the Army, a number of things must happen, some you can control and others you can not.

The first step is to raise your hand... over and over again; you need to volunteer for every course, every TDY, every deployment, every tiny bit of training that you can get. In order for military leaders to promote you based on your potential, you must first show them your drive and determination to be the most well-rounded (both training & experience) of your peers. Look for opportunities to have experience or training that isn't common in your branch or rank; think outside of the box. If you get a chance to fill a temporary position outside of your career field, take it; it will make you more well-rounded and gives your insight into the needs of others. That includes doing what no one else wants to do. If you volunteer for something hard and do well at it, people will notice.

Next, you must prove that you are both proficient and efficient. A strong work ethic will take you a long way. However, it is just as important to show that you can not only do a job, but do it better. Always be looking for ways to do more with less. The ability to save the Army time and money is always a plus. The Army has many blocks; check them, but then go the extra mile to make each unit you're in better when you leave than when you arrived.

Educate yourself! You should be enrolled in courses at all times. With the exception of deployments, throughout my 13+ year career, I have been consistently enrolled in courses the entire time (night classes, weekend classes, online classes, whatever I could). Despite the ridiculous workload, I was even taking BA and then Masters classes during BNCOC, ANCOC, and IBOLC. Don't let time be your excuse. Even if you're only enrolled in one class at a time, that's better than none. If you simply can not be enrolled in a course (military or civilian) at any given time, then dedicate 30 minutes a day to an Audible.com Course (Great Courses Series), an iTunes U Course, or a daily TED Talk. Knowledge is power! I've already mentioned military & civilian education, but you will also need to have general knowledge as well. Keep up with what's going on in the world. Know a lot about a lot. You'll be surprised how far you'll go if you're able to hold an educated conversation with your peers and superiors. You should always strive to be the smartest man in the room. Just don't be a jerk about it; just because you have something to say, doesn't mean you should always say it.

Finally, there are many things in the Army that you can not control. Often, your assignment (duty station and/or position) is chosen for you. Often, you don't have a say in what training opportunities are offered to you. Often, you are unable to 'take charge' because you're the junior guy. When that happens, make lemonade. Do the best at what you are given to do and simultaneously, look for other opportunities to go that extra mile; boards (Soldier of the Month/Quarter/Year, Audie Murphy, etc...), education (again), volunteering, etc...

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I know that was a bit of a rant, but I figure that was probably the best input that I could give to this conversation. Hopefully, some young Soldier will stumble across it and take something away from it.

With all of that being said, I've known a couple of 7-in-7 (under 8) MSgts in the Air Force. Just take a look at the TACP, CCT, and PJ communities.

With everybody filling out their promotions on their RallyPoint profile, our staff could use the data to conduct analysis on the fastest promotion paths, average times across the branches of service, rates across different specialties, and finally put some good factual information out there.

So please make sure you complete the promotion portion of your profile and encourage others you serve or served with to do the same...

MAJ (Join to see) made E-8 in a little over 9 years and recently commissioned as an infantry officer. I don't mean to embarrass him for highlighting his achievements... the Army should be very proud to have him.

I made 7 in 7. I waited another 8 to make 8. So I'm not sticking around for another 9 to make 9. Of course I waited on each list over 12 months to et pinned. And in the 8 list, I was number 2. How do you wait 13 months to get pinned when your sequence number 2?

Although not uncommon, it can be detrimental to the force and the leader themself if they are not prepared for the responsibly and respect that it requires.

I was fortunate enough to do that. 7 in 7. And selected for 8 in 9. But went to the dark side! Wa ah ah ah!

Its definitely possible. I know quite a few Soldiers who made SFC in 7 years. Some people just process information quicker than others. Some might not agree with such a quick jump in rank, but if the Soldier earned it, then he/she needs to be unbiasedly rewarded.

It is indeed possible (in the army that is) but not too common. A friend of mine made E-7 in 7 and E8 in 10. The perception of too young for the the job doesn't fit for all. Personally, I had management experience for two years prior to coming in the Army at the age of 18. I have somewhat "fast tracked" in my career. I made the E-7 list at 9yrs 3months and the E-8 list at 14yrs 2months. Both were in the secondary zone on my "first look". My opinion on this is only what I have observed from my foxhole but I thought I would chime in.

TSgt Joshua Copeland

I entered as an E-4 through the Civilian Acquired Skill (CAS) program. I made E-5 on my third year (with a Time in Service (TIS) waiver) because I was on the Secondary Zone (SZ) which basically meant that I can but don't have to.

I'm on my sixth year now and I'm promotable because I met the Time in Grade (TIMIG) requirements which put me in the Primary Zone (PZ) with no need for a waiver.

If I perform exceptionally well as an E-6, I may receive a TIMIG waiver. As SGM Erik Marquez points out, AR 600-8-19 explains it technically well. Keywords: Waivers, TIS, TIMIG (CTRL+F)

TSgt Joshua Copeland, I can't speak to E7 in 7 years, but I will tell you how it worked for some in the Army in 1970. I know it's archaic, but the situation does show what could happen anywhere, and it's all based on the "needs of the service". Back then, Special Forces was not a branch, and it was not even a non-accession specialty. It was possible to enlist and go straight to Special Forces, which is what I did.
I went to Basic Combat Training (NOV69), and by mid-April of 1970 was headed to Fort Bragg for Special Forces training. After a month or so at Camp Mackall (for Phase 1), we came back to Bragg for SF MOS training. Upon successful completion of the Weapons NCO Supervisor Candidate Special Forces Course at the end of July, every active duty soldier was promoted to Sergeant (E-5). The honor graduate was promoted Staff Sergeant (E-6)! So in the space of nine months, you go could all the way to E5 and maybe E6! The reason for this was the SF operational detachments were always comprised of NCOs, and not lower enlisted. Anyway, the Army had a need and that's how they addressed it.

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