Posted on Sep 30, 2014
MSG Brad Sand
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Now that Dallas is the latest biological hot spot, what do you do when it hits your community?

http://www.naturalnews.com/047076_Ebola_patient_Dallas.html#
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This should have never happened. The question should be asked why was this individual from Liberia allowed to enter the U.S. Why aren't our borders closed to all of these ground zero countries until this is under control. Why did the hospital staff not question and pass on to everyone that this individual was from Liberia. You let him go home for Gods sake. What the hell is wrong with you. The CDC says they are screening people before being allowed to leave the infected countries. Using questioners and handheld temperature gauges. Are you kidding me. Shouldn't they at least be quarantined for a incubation period to make sure they are not infected before allowed to leave. This happened because of poor leadership. And don't give me any political correct BS. Poor leadership plain and simple.
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Go bag is ready.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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Who's ready to play Dodge Ebola??!! Not highly contageous, but.... Here it is! I suspected it would only be time before there were cases outside of Africa......
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Actually it is highly contagious. Hence the CDCs recommendations of standard, contact, and droplet precautions. Also, if it wasn't contagious, how did 2 aide workers contract it while wearing the Tyvek suits? Here is the CDC recs. Bummer is, the only real way of quick diagnosis is by taking the person's travel history, and history of symptoms. Lab testing takes a few days and at least in this area is done by USAMRID.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/infection-prevention-and-control-recommendations.html
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Maj Chris Nelson
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I was just going off the news media on the contagious-ness.....I suspected otherwise, but that was the public release. I am NOT looking forward to this one!
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I agree, additionally, this is what the CDC states on their website. Note the last paragraph. Makes our job fun huh right Chris?
"Because the natural reservoir host of Ebola viruses has not yet been identified, the manner in which the virus first appears in a human at the start of an outbreak is unknown. However, researchers believe that the first patient becomes infected through contact with an infected animal.

When an infection does occur in humans, the virus can be spread in several ways to others. Ebola is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with

blood or body fluids (including but not limited to urine, saliva, feces, vomit, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola
objects (like needles and syringes) that have been contaminated with the virus
infected animals
Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats.

Healthcare providers caring for Ebola patients and the family and friends in close contact with Ebola patients are at the highest risk of getting sick because they may come in contact with infected blood or body fluids of sick patients."
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Highly infectious. Not very contagious.
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Ebola patient now in isolation at Dallas Presbyterian Hospital
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Well, sadly, he is not in isolation any more. I wonder if the two days he was at home would have made any difference?
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MSG Brad Sand - Yes it is very sad. Helping another person was a death sentence to him.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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The thing I can't believe is that "officials" are making brazen statements that there is no fear of spreading and it is contained - yet at this point they don't know who patient X has come into contact with - WTF?? Also how do we know with all these folks walking across the border none of them are infected "plants"?
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MSG Brad Sand
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca

I keep thinking I am paranoid and then it is in the US...and then our medical 'professionals' are sending a contagious Ebola back out into the public for two more days? Consider this, go sit in the E.R. for an hour, leave the hospital for the pharmacy, and consider everywhere you go and EVERYONE you come in contact with for the next two days! How many people could that be, I guess we will not know for three weeks?
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I know many will say that the guy who came here with Ebola should be prosecuted and perhaps they had a point, however, my morality does not cheer the man's passing. It is sad and I do wish his family and his fiance well. Such a terrible way to go.
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I think that this story illustrates the some issues within the healthcare system. Their was a lack of communication, but we know that the message that the Patient was in West Africa was not communicated meaning that it was probably in the chart (Because we know about it), but not verbally communicated to the provider. Also the patient was diagnosed with the common cold which is a viral infection caused by as many as 200 different types of viruses, and was placed on antibiotics. He should have been told to drink fluids and rest; the overuse of antibiotics is more dangerous in the long run than Ebola (My very humble opinion). Then of course he was released into the public again, which caused him to have to repeat the exposure to receive treatment.

To get back to the primary subject the country of Nigeria is one of the richest countries in Africa, and has the most advance healthcare system in the region. The other countries most often talked about are extremely poor, with no medical systems to speak of really. Nigeria has effectively controlled their small outbreak (Brought by an American I hear; but could be rumor), and have not had a case in the past month. They did this through education, screening, and tracking. The CDC is really good at tracking, but we need to improve on the screening, and education; this will help treat those early, and relieve incorrect beliefs that lead to irrational fears.

If the example of Nigeria; which hosts a less capable healthcare system was successful than this is not a giant concern to me. I would also bring up how helpful clean running water is in preventing a lot of these concerns. Along with that this illustrates the importance of parenting in teaching your children to cover their mouths when they cough, and then wash their hands. If they cannot keep up with that they should wear a mask while they are ill.
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SFC Mark Merino
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It was never a question of whether or not it could be contained to just Africa. It was just too big of an area. On NHK (Japanese news) the "official" numbers were about 2,700 confirmed dead. Given that the main focus in that part of the world is surviving day to day, many avoid hospitals and tend to their menial jobs of trying to scratch a living out of the earth. If someone falls to the wayside and succumbs to disease, I would imagine that the first thought is to cast the dead aside and get back to surviving, not reporting to the CDC shanties to keep up with reporting protocol. A barely educated worker at an airport holding a body temperature hand held scanner can only do so much. Ships dock along the east coast and look for stewards. People walk across borders, etc, etc. In my humble opinion, we did nothing when it mattered the most. Politics aside, we are one world. Now, where did I put my duct tape and plastic sheeting??
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Apparently we have to redefine, "isolation" as now we have 2 cases on US soil. Why not put all this technology on a hospital ship, off shore?
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MSG Brad Sand
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Why, because it is hard to send them home from a hospital ship? :)

I think the logistics of putting them on a ship would out weigh any benefits. If ever gets to the point to use a ship, we need to place those without the virus on a ship...the Last Ship.
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MSG Brad Sand
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Story keeps getting better! The ebola patient was sent home and was out and about in Texas for two days before he had to be brought back to the hospital in an ambulance.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-in-dallas-with-ebola-initially-sent-home-with-antibiotics/ar-BB6EaCu
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