Posted on Feb 25, 2016
***(Edited) What form of Government is the US *supposed* to be?
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I seem to get into this type of discussion every few months with some of my friends. I have my opinion of what it is (I'll give in a few days).
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Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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Well, we're supposed to be a representative republic, but that got lost along the way because We the People couldn't keep it. God knows what we are now. It seems that we're adrift with some advocating democracy and others for socialism. Personally, I'd prefer that we go back to the original plan but that seems hopeless inasmuch as most people couldn't properly define any of the choices listed here.
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PO2 Steven Erickson
MSG Brad Sand, you're right, but who's gonna tell the dependent population that Santa has left the building?
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As designed, we are supposed to have a representative republic. As defined in a republic, the rights, liberties and freedoms originate and reside in THE INDIVIDUAL. The government and society cannot take away any of those things... they must be voluntarily GIVEN by the individual. We're supposed to be like THAT, but we're not...
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Capt Lance Gallardo
PO2 Steven Erickson I love the line from Mel Gibson's movie the Patriot, where he says I do not want to exchange one tyrant three thousand miles away (King George) for 300 hundred tyrants a hundred miles away (in the State capital). Basically expressing what Thomas Jefferson is saying in your quote above.
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It is supposed to be a confederal constitutional republic with a presidential system and bicameral legislature...
Though it would be nice if we could go back to that, I think we're currently a federalist social democracy with a bicameral legislative controlled entirely by a select group of special interests and elitists.
Though it would be nice if we could go back to that, I think we're currently a federalist social democracy with a bicameral legislative controlled entirely by a select group of special interests and elitists.
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Nominally a Representative Republic within the confines of a Constitution. However, more accurately we are a (perpetual) "Bureaucracy" at this point.
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Rather than vote on this, I would ask if you mean as determined by the Founding Fathers (yeah, I know how that hurts the PC crowd) or what it really is today. Once the question is clarified, I will vote.
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There are many different forms of government. The Founding Fathers mainly used Britain as a model for obvious reasons. The King reigns (makes policy, or statutes), the Prince rules (enforces policy), the Aristocracy are Sovereign Blood Relatives of the King, and Aliens are Subjects. The King & his family members were under Common, or Natural Law while the Subjects (Adopted Children) were under Statute Law, or policy. House of Lords representing the former; House of Commons the latter. Senate representing the States; House of Representatives the people.
POTUS (King) makes policy through executive orders; Agency Heads (Prince) enforce the policy. US policy and Statutes only apply to Federal Government agencies and their Subjects on Federal Government territory, with the exception of partial sovereignty surrendered by the States in the US Constitution and by individual State treaties with the Federal Government, such as accepting financial aid and the strings attached. Just as the States, Natural Born Sovereign State Citizens have surrendered their partial individual sovereignty to the Federal Government through treaties such as Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicare, and on and on to receive the benefits afforded to Federal Government Subjects.
The Federal Government was created Subject to the Sovereign States through a written document: the Constitution, for purposes specified in the document. Until 1933 State Citizens were originally under Common Law, which is the Law of Sovereigns. Federal Government territories were always Subject to Statute; not Common Law. Democracies are Subject to Written Law; Republics to Natural Law.
POTUS (King) makes policy through executive orders; Agency Heads (Prince) enforce the policy. US policy and Statutes only apply to Federal Government agencies and their Subjects on Federal Government territory, with the exception of partial sovereignty surrendered by the States in the US Constitution and by individual State treaties with the Federal Government, such as accepting financial aid and the strings attached. Just as the States, Natural Born Sovereign State Citizens have surrendered their partial individual sovereignty to the Federal Government through treaties such as Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicare, and on and on to receive the benefits afforded to Federal Government Subjects.
The Federal Government was created Subject to the Sovereign States through a written document: the Constitution, for purposes specified in the document. Until 1933 State Citizens were originally under Common Law, which is the Law of Sovereigns. Federal Government territories were always Subject to Statute; not Common Law. Democracies are Subject to Written Law; Republics to Natural Law.
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As founded/designed - constitutional republic. I don't have an easy/quick answer for how it is currently operating...
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US Constitution Article, 4. Section. 4.
THE UNITED STATES SHALL GUARANTEE TO EVERY STATE IN THIS UNION A REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT, ...
Key words, THE UNITED STATES SHALL GUARANTEE and REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT
THE UNITED STATES SHALL GUARANTEE TO EVERY STATE IN THIS UNION A REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT, ...
Key words, THE UNITED STATES SHALL GUARANTEE and REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT
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