Posted on May 9, 2015
SFC Jacob Hinkkanen
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Since the revision of AR 670-1, and the implementation of DA Pam 670-1, it is now at the wearer's discretion as to which badge they wear. Which badge do you wear regularly? I think the EIB holds a bit more weight since less people have it. Opinions?
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CSM Brigade Operations (S3) Sergeant Major
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CIB - I almost got killed (several times) in a foreign country.

EIB - I completed a series of skill level one tasks (which is required by my MOS anyway), passed an APFT (which is required by the Army anyway), qualified expert with my rifle (which you should anyway), and walked 12 miles with some stuff in my ruck (which you should do regularly anyway).

Scale tips towards the game trophy versus the practice trophy.
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CSM Brigade Operations (S3) Sergeant Major
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SFC Jacob Hinkkanen
To each his own. I have heard numerous Soldiers complain about their CIB/CAB or complain about someone else's CIB/CAB. If someone feels like deploying to a hostile area, possibly being killed or seriously wounded in defense of their country and fellow Soldier is less important to them than completing tasks directly related to their job with little to no risk of injury or death that's their prerogative.

I wouldn't say that the EIB "fell off the charts" it has always been an item looked at by boards for promotion. I think it is more of an opportunity to compete for it opposed to "I have my CIB that's good enough". Nowhere in the centralized promotion board memos or the Infantryman's career path does it say CIB.

I do not want to bash on the EIB because our branch says it's important but, like I said above they are skill level one tasks. Having an EIB tells me that you are as proficient as an E-1 thru E-4 Infantryman, every 11 series Soldier should have one...don't you agree?

As the GWOT continues to slow down you will see the EIB become more prominent as units will have time to conduct it and Soldiers will be deployed less and able to compete.
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CSM (Join to see) SFC Jacob Hinkkanen This is EXACTLY what I have said when NCOs claim earning their EIB is an automatic "Excellent" block under Competence. "Congratulations, SSG. You did the same thing that PFC over there did." I get that timing and opportunity to test is a factor.
I am very proud of my EIB because I earned it as a PFC. I am equally proud of my CIB, which is what I wear. The CIB has a lot to do with timing. When you wear in, when your unit deployed and to where, what your job was, etc. I know an Infantry 11Z that only has an EIB because he was a DS from 2003-2006, then went to a unit that was resetting. By the time he got into theater the first time, he was working in BN S-3. He was never in the right place at the right time, and doesn't have a CIB. I also know an 18Z SFC(P) without one, even though he went on multiple missions in Iraq and Afghanistan on multiple deployments, but never met the qualification standards. Just because some units "gave away" CIBs doesn't make me any less proud of what I did to earn mine.
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CIB no contest. 
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SFC Jacob Hinkkanen
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CSM (Join to see) SFC (Join to see) I agree that every CMF 11 Soldier should have their EIB. This is especially true with NCOs. There should be no special credit given to a SSG who earns it. There are situations where it takes a guy longer to have the opportunity to compete due to deployments and NCOES but that should be getting better given the GWOT drawdown. I also agree that earning an EIB should not be an excellence on a guy's NCOER. SSG met the Army standard on a bunch of tasks is not a very strong bullet. I am proud of both because I know what I did to get them. Regardless of everybody else's stories of how they got theirs, situations and experiences vary greatly.
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COL Charles Williams
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I have neither... But I would have to assume it would be the CIB. It is by far, the coolest award we have, and when I see it, I am always impressed... and thankful for my brothers who volunteer to go the last 100 yards. Were it not for you, we would have no one to support.
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SPC Charles Brown
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Well said sir.
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Coolest? I would think an O-6 would have a greater appreciation of awards. Lets put it in perspective. Its not cool compared to the ruptured duck that US Army Soldiers in the Solomons got in 1945. In fact its an insult...
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MSgt Ronald Stacy
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We don't need no stinking badges.
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