Falsely claiming PTSD for VA benefits?

I'll just say what everyone else is failing to say to an "Unverified Veteran" MSgt that for all we know is a poser trying to stir the pot.

Stay in your own effin lane and don't worry about what you can't control..

as someone with PTSD 100% VA disability, most of the question really demeans and really denigrates and really makes all kinds of totally false uninformed and anti-science accusations against anyone with PTSd. and really not very polite to any veteran. the accusations of fraud are paricularly damning and particularly dehumanizing. It is almost impossible for the VA to award anyone a disability for PTSD without almost impossible requirements for a professional ironclad diagnosis, so it really insults psychiatry and psychology science and the profession.

The insults here to the profession of psychiatry and psychology are beyond forgiveness because our therapy, our lives requires that we trust our therapists and this screed says doctors don't know shit and our therapy is shit. it is not. 30 to 40 veterans die of suicide every day ... every single day .. because people spread false disinformation like this around. we are targets and every day a police officer shoots one or two veterans just for practice, another ptsd fraud dead they say

huge chip on somebody's shoulders. sounds like they need serious medical care

Write to the office of investigation at the VA. but if the complaint is just a series of basdeless unfounded wild accusations i don't think they would take it seriously either

this kind of wild talk hurts everybody. that is my professional opinion

Here's my two cents, first and foremost, the adage of claiming PTSD is not something that is classified once someone claims it. Initially, a person who claims this condition is claiming Post Traumatic Stress, if the symptoms have progressed or been present for longer than six months then the condition is claimed a disorder. However, this condition has been used to death and beaten like a dead horse. The reason for this is because if someone claiming this condition who knows the symptomology it is very easy to fool a provider. I'll give one such case; we had one cat who deployed with me on my last combat deployment. It just so happened that this guy would embellish some outlandish stories of his past tour in Korea claiming he had killed a north Korean general, all this while being stationed in the Hovey cut of camp casey. His stories didn't end there upon his return he would claim his combat exposure while on patrol. The only problem was it was hard to be on patrol while working in BDE TOC. He eventually finished his enlistment and was awarded 100 % due mainly to his PTSD. Now most of us would agree this is a clear case of fraud, however, the real tragedy is those who are honestly suffering with this condition find it hard as hell to receive the rating they truly deserve.

Along the lines of PTSD there is now a new condition that few really know about which is what I have called Playstation PTSD or second hand PTSD. Which is basically someone developing PTSD based on the exploits of others. Yes you heard me right if you and a buddy are talking about what you did at a particular time and place relating to something traumatic an individual who has never experienced anything remotely will mentally internalize your exploits, adopt them as their own and begin to suffer emotionally from something they were never even present to witness. I discovered this phenomenon when I was working on my undergraduate work in psychology. Crazy I know. If someone looks at the DSM V one would look at all the disorders within the text, but they would then question themselves when it came to the PTSD section. I mention this because this section has more than any other section. Meaning the umbrella of symptoms is far greater than those of other conditions. Conditions such as associative disorder, histrionic disorder, agoraphobia, OCD and many more. Since the time PTSD has been introduced into the field of mental health it has morphed into this never ending classification. It is not like "shell shock, battle fatigue or battle exposure" instead it is a mix of these conditions and everything else that may cause a person to suffer a traumatic episode.

Relating to this young thundercat you mention in your brief it may highly be likely that his condition is fraudulent. The problem is how do you go about proving this without looking like someone who has an axe to grind? Since obtaining this person's medical records are a dead end and having them self admit the claim of PTSD is a fraud you are pretty much in a stalemate. The only recourse would be to make the VA aware but remember no one likes admitting they have made a mistake.

I am no lawyer but sounds like fraud and should be investigated . I did four wars and seen combat but one of the worst events in my life was I was on a accident investigation board of a plane crash . 134 fatalities and those working with me suffered PTSD working on this site . Some people react different then others to a crisis and you never know until it happens .

Am very upset with this member! Took 28 yrs after being wrongfully discharged before I even learned I wz entitled to ANY kind of benefits. Started out by registering for health care--21 yrs ago--immediately seeking treatment for depression I'd been diagnosed for prior to starting treatment at V.A.

Two yrs later, it wz determined depression wz result of PTSD, "injury" incurred upon learning hw my discharge had been handled. I filed claim & wz denied coz, tho stressor had been life-altering, it hadn't been life-threatening.

As IMH client, I became one of their guinea pigs & drugs they administered became their ONLY focus; thruout their experimentation, they NVR considered alleviating my condition by diagnosing it as PTSD--ONLY way it could be considered service connected.

This member claims his condition no longer exists & he no longer requires treatment. I stopped medicating coz I didn't care to be experimented on; I believe PTSD cn be regulated but in NO WAY believe it cn be cured.

If this member believes he's been cured, I believe he has managed to defraud the V.A. As I write this, it's all I cn do to maintain composure to keep words coming; all I cn to do keep tears from clouding my view. Brings back painful memories of living in Corpus Christi 40 yrs ago--naval base that included Marine training. Wz painful riding Metro from one side of town to another coz of going thru naval base.

Am irate that this member, supposedly suffering from PTSD, could then enlist in Army Guard, considering USMC/DoD manipulated my honorable discharge in such way that I could neither reenlist in ANY OTHER branch nor could I hope for advancement as civilian employee....& yet V.A./DoD deny responsibility or compensability for my having PTSD!

I was treated for PTSD by VA doctors and still could not get it put on my list of things wrong with me. This has nothing to do with hunting or concealed carry unless he was forced by a judge to be hospitalized.

First, unless your a trained mental health worker and he’s not in any danger to himself or others then just mind your business.
If you in fact contacted the VA and by your post I believe you did and claimed he’s falsely claiming PTSD then I take my hat off to the VA for not taking action.
Now, if you were concerned that he may harm himself or others that would be a different story. Until you g t your Doctorate in the field of mental health I suggest you just keep your nose out of his business and worry about your own

ptsd has nothing to do with what you've been through especially with the DSM 5. It has everything to do with how psychologically resilient you are. However everyone has their individual breaking point. And I wanted to point out that the most likely damage from undergoing traumatic events is actual physical brain changes including to its neural pathways. The lifetime prevalence rate for civilian men is around 6.9% for men in Vietnam upwards of 30% for men in Desert Storm 12%.

There will always be those that try to cheat the system.

I watched a perfectly healthy and capable guy set out to collect 100% disability from the military and succeeded masterfully.. and I couldn't do a thing about it... My hands were tied and if I couldn't hit him head on I wasn't going t hit him at all..... I can't even include the reasons behind or the circumstances of his discharge ... He was the highest ranking enlisted man in his branch of the service... with time in grade and max stripes....
He didn't receive the disability for too long a time as he died of colon cancer just barely into his 60's.
Sometimes you just have to "bite the bullet" and watch the world go by.... He went from being honorable to being a cheat.... and that's how I'll remember him.. a cheat