Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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SN Dale "CG" Veach
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It’s not for us to decide or make accusations
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SN Dale "CG" Veach
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I understand your concerns here but I feel that this is not any of our concerns and should be referred to competent authority for advisement. We are not the doctors or medical claims reviewers.
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PVT Ron Tebo
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MYTH: Combat is synonymous with PTSD! I have a rating for PTSD; nonetheless, I am not a combat veteran and my rating is deserved. I was assaulted (while in uniform) by a high-ranking officer in front of 60-plus soldiers and I am grateful that three soldiers came forward to reinforce my claim--almost 40 years later. Also, the officer (2015) apologized to me for the assault and for ruining my military career! After the assault, he counseled me for discharge--knowing if I stayed I'd have him charged and arrested.
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SPC Scott Hall
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I'm 100% P&T for Non Combat PTSD. It is still service connected because the service caused it. My grandmother raised me from the age of 3 and even signed me over to Uncle Sam at the age of 17. I deployed when I was 19 and halfway through my deployment my grandmother died. Upon hearing the news I broke down and was initially told for 24 hours that I would not be able to attend her funeral. Worst 24 hours of my life. I ended up becoming insubordinate towards my commander and 1st Sgt moments before the red cross message came through verifying that she was my primary caregiver my entire childhood thus entitling me to emergency leave. I got 3 days.. long enough to fly home, bury her, and go right back to having potshots taken at me with rpgs. No time to grieve... there's no room for it in a combat zone even though I was just Transportation coordination. Gotta keep the wheels of war rolling right... when I got home I had nothing left as being my grandmother's caregiver is what my life's focus was when I came home. I ended up on drugs which ultimately lead to my discharge from the Army. Even after I got away from the drugs. I kept losing jobs over incidents I had no memory of. Losing relationships for incidents I had no memory of and in 2014 I lost the will to live and attempted suicide. I spent the following 8 months or so recieving extensive inpatient therapy and shortly after I got out I had my final exam with a Psychiatrist and within 30 days of that had my approval letter. Here I am 7 years later. I have a beautiful family that keeps me goin. I tried medications from the VA for the first few years but the side effects from most of it was worse than the problems they were meant to treat. So I gave up and now I just smoke copius amounts of Marijuana and see a therapist regularly. I learned my trigger is being trapped in an unfamiliar environment that I'm unable to escape from at my own will.. it makes my adrenaline skyrocket until I either pass out or blackout and start fighting anyone around me. I've learned to stay home unless absolutely necessary. Point of the story is you never know what another human being has gone through to make them who they are. If they pull away from VA services they probably have their own experiences that made them do so. Not every trauma is the same and you can't claim to know if someone is a fraud without knowing their story.
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SPC Julio R.
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If one was a fobbit that is traumatized that the coffee bean had no coffee. Of the fatty cake store didnt have you shamtastic eats. You can't or shouldn't claim sht.
As for the initial question......
GET A LIFE, WHO CARES WHAT THAT BLUE FALCON IS CLAIMING. NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS....
Don't you have anything better to do then to waste your time on some crusade? Do you run around looking for fake soldiers too. Like come on, that guy is an s bag and at the end of the day it'll bite him in the butt. Like come on already do you how many blue falcons claim this and that and they didn't even leave the wire. Just wow.......
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CW2 Matt Baum
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I would approach this situation by staying in my own lane. Unless you are a mental health professional (VA psychologist), who is to say if this person has PTSD or any other mental health condition(s)? In the Air Force as an Air Transporter, I never felt very stressed pushing pallets in "combat zones".
In the Army, I felt some stress as a Combat Medic going out on patrols and QRF in Iraq.
Oh wait, but I never fired my weapons (M9/M4) in combat.
After 9 years of active duty Air Force and several "deployments", I didn't even know how to lock my bolt to the rear. I NEVER had a weapon issued (minus going to the range about 3 times).
My two cents: be concerned with you and yours.
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MSgt Aerospace Medical Technician
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1: none of your business and sounds like you're just jealous he is getting monetary benefits for stories he embellished to compensate or hide his Moral Injury.

2. PTSD doesn't just happen from combat zones so I'd educate yourself on what PTSD actually is and how people get it. You can check VA website, you can be qualified through ANY situation that is fear of life like a car accident CONUS / hurricane / MST.

3. There is a system for defrauding the government for lying. The VBA has investigators and has caught many especially obvious Orthopedic injuries that a fraudulent vet has a wheelchair during a reevaluation then posts selfies in weight lifting competition.

4. You have no medical expertise and the path to claim any rating has many checks and balances which some do get away with it, but that's on the LICENSED professional's Medical Opinion
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SSG Jason Noyce
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Unfortunately there's not much you can do unless you have physical proof. Contact https://www.va.gov/oig/hotline/ and direct your concern to them and they should be able to point you in the right direction.
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Sgt David Scott
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And I believe that we all know at least one case such as this. Defrauding the Government is bad, but what they are doing to their bothers and sisters is fare worse.
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SGT Roman Davis
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First, let me say my comment does not reflect on the OP. In fact, it is an answer with a question. We have been brainwashed to believe that only combat veterans suffer from PTSD. It is a flat lie that has been proven more than once. The definition of trauma is a deeply distressing or disturbing experience. It also states it might be an emotional shock following a stressful event or a physical injury, which may be associated with physical shock and sometimes leads to long-term neurosis.
The VA demands that veterans focus only on combat experience...I will list other trauma that by definition alone might cause PTSD...
1) Accused of a crime, punished, jailed, raped then found innocent of all charges.
2) Given unlawful orders and punished for not completing an unlawful order.
3) Loss of family, friends, co-workers during a declared war event.
4) Feeling hopeless that you will fail your family and that they might have to live without you.
5) Fear for the life of a family member or loved one serving in a combat zone.
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I see you posted to nearly every agency that exists to help people with trauma related illness. Reading this post about a veteran calling out another veteran is traumatic. An accusation alone is more damaging than guilt or innocence. You openly accused someone whom you have never met and have never walked in the shoes of something that is not even in your control...you do not control who will or will not receive government assistance.
Nothing is free and every veteran, war or not, has delivered a increment of patriotism, peace, and safety of those living in America. Let them investigate, they get compensated a shit-ton of money to address fraud.
Try helping a veteran. You do not know what that means, or how that feels...I can tell. The government agencies that you have paid into are not in the business of giving away anything. And, lastly, you should treat any and all agencies with the same level of understanding as our Miranda Rights...show me one of those CC agencies you posted on that are not in the business of guarding funds set aside for servicemembers and their families.
I hope you never need any one of those agencies...because this post can never be taken back from my mind.
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