Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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It's right along with sexual trauma. You can't prove that it ever happened if you have ZERO evidence and you can't prove that it never happened if you have zero evidence.
I know a vet who knows a vet who knows vets who are collecting both and are scamming the system(I'm covering my ass here and/or I cannot confirm nor deny the fact of the matter).
Nothing you can do about it and nothing you can do will change it. The VBA is a weird ruthless thing...
1LT Susan Bailey
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For those of you who are suffering from PTSD, and are disabled, have you heard of the organization called 22Zero.org? I strongly recommend to any of you suffering from PTSD that you look into this. Unlike traditional therapies you don’t have to relive this trauma to make your way through it and be healed. I had PTSD from a lot of different events in my life not just service connected, and I’ve tried this. And it worked for me. I strongly suggest that you reach out. Veterans are treated for free and it’s actually a really interesting process, and it’s amazing how you feel. It took a few days to really set in for me, but it really did help. In fact, I am hoping at some point to be able to be a coach with her with this process that’s how much I believe in it. Check it out at the website and see what you think. Tell them Sue Bailey sent you.
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1LT Susan Bailey
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As a Legal Nurse Consultant now, I think it would be really hard to tell if this troop had such a severe disability, without reviewing the applicable records surrounding the issue at hand. That being said, if his service record and his ERB Don’t reflect the type of service he claims to have received his disability from, that seems like a clear-cut case of fraud. However, that being said, others have said PTSD can be accounted for in various ways through service to our country. Perhaps he has other mental health issues which are affecting his judgment or his sense of reality. But otherwise, if one was to claim disability for service never performed I would think that’s a straight up fraud case. If he is receiving benefits from the VA, and nobody seems interested enough to even review whether or not, this is a real service related disability, could you not make an inquiry through your elected official like your senator or somebody like that at that level that you may believe that there is a fraudulent claim of VA benefits occurring? Also, it’s my understanding that if you are receiving retirement benefits from the VA or disability payments from the federal government that is a violation of UCMJ, because anybody in that boat is still required to uphold the standards under UCMJ. And it might be worth attempting to go at it from that perspective if you feel it’s necessary to pursue. Certainly a JAG or somebody would be willing to look into this as a fraud case.
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LCDR Robert Luckie
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This same VA that refuses to recognize the PTSD of my son-in-law who returned from Iraq and still carries the shrapnel from his surviving a rocket attack some of his compatriots did not. Of course he doesn't campaign for it, tries to get by with little support from the VA, who now many years following his medical retirement has finally just this year given him a provisional 100% disability due to the burn pit legislation.
People who are too damaged to seek the help they need are gladly ignored by the VA.
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MSG William Wold
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I am rated at 50%. Their reasoning for no higher, I had a long term marriage (29 but ended in divorce) Long term employment (27 at the same job) I never claimed I wanted to kill myself or take out anyone with me. That's where it sits.
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SN Dale "CG" Veach
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It’s not for us to decide or make accusations
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SN Dale "CG" Veach
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I understand your concerns here but I feel that this is not any of our concerns and should be referred to competent authority for advisement. We are not the doctors or medical claims reviewers.
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PVT Ron Tebo
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MYTH: Combat is synonymous with PTSD! I have a rating for PTSD; nonetheless, I am not a combat veteran and my rating is deserved. I was assaulted (while in uniform) by a high-ranking officer in front of 60-plus soldiers and I am grateful that three soldiers came forward to reinforce my claim--almost 40 years later. Also, the officer (2015) apologized to me for the assault and for ruining my military career! After the assault, he counseled me for discharge--knowing if I stayed I'd have him charged and arrested.
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SPC Scott Hall
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I'm 100% P&T for Non Combat PTSD. It is still service connected because the service caused it. My grandmother raised me from the age of 3 and even signed me over to Uncle Sam at the age of 17. I deployed when I was 19 and halfway through my deployment my grandmother died. Upon hearing the news I broke down and was initially told for 24 hours that I would not be able to attend her funeral. Worst 24 hours of my life. I ended up becoming insubordinate towards my commander and 1st Sgt moments before the red cross message came through verifying that she was my primary caregiver my entire childhood thus entitling me to emergency leave. I got 3 days.. long enough to fly home, bury her, and go right back to having potshots taken at me with rpgs. No time to grieve... there's no room for it in a combat zone even though I was just Transportation coordination. Gotta keep the wheels of war rolling right... when I got home I had nothing left as being my grandmother's caregiver is what my life's focus was when I came home. I ended up on drugs which ultimately lead to my discharge from the Army. Even after I got away from the drugs. I kept losing jobs over incidents I had no memory of. Losing relationships for incidents I had no memory of and in 2014 I lost the will to live and attempted suicide. I spent the following 8 months or so recieving extensive inpatient therapy and shortly after I got out I had my final exam with a Psychiatrist and within 30 days of that had my approval letter. Here I am 7 years later. I have a beautiful family that keeps me goin. I tried medications from the VA for the first few years but the side effects from most of it was worse than the problems they were meant to treat. So I gave up and now I just smoke copius amounts of Marijuana and see a therapist regularly. I learned my trigger is being trapped in an unfamiliar environment that I'm unable to escape from at my own will.. it makes my adrenaline skyrocket until I either pass out or blackout and start fighting anyone around me. I've learned to stay home unless absolutely necessary. Point of the story is you never know what another human being has gone through to make them who they are. If they pull away from VA services they probably have their own experiences that made them do so. Not every trauma is the same and you can't claim to know if someone is a fraud without knowing their story.
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SPC Julio R.
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If one was a fobbit that is traumatized that the coffee bean had no coffee. Of the fatty cake store didnt have you shamtastic eats. You can't or shouldn't claim sht.
As for the initial question......
GET A LIFE, WHO CARES WHAT THAT BLUE FALCON IS CLAIMING. NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS....
Don't you have anything better to do then to waste your time on some crusade? Do you run around looking for fake soldiers too. Like come on, that guy is an s bag and at the end of the day it'll bite him in the butt. Like come on already do you how many blue falcons claim this and that and they didn't even leave the wire. Just wow.......
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