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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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Circumstances are not really capable of beinng deserned by lay people. This is a question that the psychological and medical departments of the Veterans Administration must answer. If legal action is demanded then there are test which can more clearly define whether the soldier is a true PTSD patient or wherher he is a fake. Disabilities can be removed and judicial actions taken if proven fake claim.
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Sadly, there are those who have no morals and will file false claims. Sadly those who file false claims are used against those who have legit claims have to go through more hoops ( red tape ) to get their claims approved, because of people who file false claims, yet as you described, the false claim eventually get's approved, while those who truly need are struggling to get help, and their claims approved. the fact it took 12 years for this person to get his claim approved, shows the weakness in our systems. What changed in they system to allow him to get his claim approved, sadly it's political, depending on who is in office at the time and if the relax or lower the bar to get benefits.
To be honest I would rather see one person slip through, then make it even harder for those who need it, deserve it are able to. Like I stated all to often, the system is set up against those who play by the rules as opposed to those who learn how to game the system.
To be honest I would rather see one person slip through, then make it even harder for those who need it, deserve it are able to. Like I stated all to often, the system is set up against those who play by the rules as opposed to those who learn how to game the system.
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I believe there are fraudulent claims of PTSD, just there are fraudulent claims of heroism, and many other services related things. My service time was in the Air Force, so I never considered the possibility of suffering from PTSD. Of the 4 years I served 18 months were in North Africa, from there going directly to 13 months in Vietnam. I came home in 1967 to a time when being in military service you were lower than scum. Again, I never thought I might have PTSD even though I have gone through a lot of struggles since I got out. A year or so after getting out I wanted to end it all, after seeing my civilian doctor he sent me to the regional VA hospital. I was at the VA hospital overnight then sent home. Doctors at the VA said they saw nothing obviously wrong believing I was not a threat to myself or anyone else so there was nothing they could do. Now here in 2023 after reviewing my history over the past 50+ years my VA PCP and the service officer at my American Legion post feel there is reason enough to pursue the possibility I do in fact have PTSD. Real or fake, in my case the events in my life have been real, PSTD real I don't know but I will be seeing mental health professionals at the VA and see where that leads.
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I don't believe the myth that everyone that goes into combat must develop PTSD
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The armed forces are full of fraud. Most people just want that money. No integrity in most of them.
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While I was at the Warrior Transition Unit in Ft Campbell. I came across someone that said they had PTSD, with less than 3.5yrs. This person never deployed. Asked why they had PTSD and was told my drill sergeant yelled at me. All I could do was turn around and walk away. Wasn’t worth getting busted down and assault on my record. I did a tour in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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The VA Tells ME I Have P.T.S.D.
And I DISAGREE With Them....
And Since The Very First Day I've Used Their Services,
~~ Seriously, the FIRST DAY & Ever Needed Them.~~
It's Been One Screw-Up Followed By The Next,
Misdiagnosed As Bi-Polar Only To Discover The Medication
They Gave Me Was Driving Me Nuts.. There Was Nothing Wrong With Me.
THANK The Gods For MEDICARE.....
I'm Now An ESCAPEE, And Living To Tell Others
"Check Them Out Before Trusting Them With Your Life,"
In All Seriousness, Other Issues Arose Where They Almost Killed Me,...
Emergency Surgery, Followed By Hospitalization And MONTHS Of Rehab Time,,,
With But Just SOME Recovery.. While Other Damages Are Permanent.
~~ I Only WISH It Were Just Misdiagnosed P.T.S.D.~~
My Brother Goes To The Dayton, Ohio VA And BRAGS About The GREAT Care He Gets..
They DO Take GREAT Care Of Him; He Even Gets Telephone Calls To Ask How He's Doing,
And Letting Him Know Of Other Benefits.....
And I DISAGREE With Them....
And Since The Very First Day I've Used Their Services,
~~ Seriously, the FIRST DAY & Ever Needed Them.~~
It's Been One Screw-Up Followed By The Next,
Misdiagnosed As Bi-Polar Only To Discover The Medication
They Gave Me Was Driving Me Nuts.. There Was Nothing Wrong With Me.
THANK The Gods For MEDICARE.....
I'm Now An ESCAPEE, And Living To Tell Others
"Check Them Out Before Trusting Them With Your Life,"
In All Seriousness, Other Issues Arose Where They Almost Killed Me,...
Emergency Surgery, Followed By Hospitalization And MONTHS Of Rehab Time,,,
With But Just SOME Recovery.. While Other Damages Are Permanent.
~~ I Only WISH It Were Just Misdiagnosed P.T.S.D.~~
My Brother Goes To The Dayton, Ohio VA And BRAGS About The GREAT Care He Gets..
They DO Take GREAT Care Of Him; He Even Gets Telephone Calls To Ask How He's Doing,
And Letting Him Know Of Other Benefits.....
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At the VA I have encountered at least 75 percent are full of bull shit! Most are total fakes applying for disability in many different areas! Most are easily found,
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You are the problem. You are why some ppl never get help and would rather commit suicide. Unless you have a degree or the money is being taken from your check, mind ya business.
GySgt Michael Payne
No, the poser are the problem. Check your facts, because the huge free check, the ones that really need the VA for help get pushed to the back, and that is why they commit suicide, they have to wait four to six months to see the cardiologist because there is 5000 in front of them that is looking to draw a check.
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GySgt Michael Payne so you're saying that MST is fake and anyone that reports it is a poser looking for a free check while other ppl, more needy ppl, aren't receiving services????
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