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As seen on FaceBook:
"If my kid can't bring peanut butter to school, you cant bring your unvaccinated kid to school."
Aaaaand go!
Really look forward to MAJ (Join to see)'s thoughts based on his background.
"If my kid can't bring peanut butter to school, you cant bring your unvaccinated kid to school."
Aaaaand go!
Really look forward to MAJ (Join to see)'s thoughts based on his background.
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I was talking about this with my wife just yesterday, we are not the kind of people that judge others just because they think different. We have friends that wont get their kids vaccinated because strong beliefs about autism. We don't have kids, maybe I'm not the best to talk in these kind of topics but, every parent has a reason to either vaccinate or not their kids. Both will have strong arguments, the main thing here is learn from each other and keep an open mind. Also, look information BEFORE go ranting against those that don't think like you do.
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Most schools systems I have dealt with require a copy of vaccinations records what they can and cannot do with I do not know.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
TSgt Joshua Copeland Check. I'm trying to figure out an example however.
"I believe that Space Aliens will abduct my child if they are vaccinated"
What is the standard. Religious objections are a matter of doctrine and can be researched. Philosophical objections are so much harder. Like nailing jello to a wall.
"I believe that Space Aliens will abduct my child if they are vaccinated"
What is the standard. Religious objections are a matter of doctrine and can be researched. Philosophical objections are so much harder. Like nailing jello to a wall.
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SPC Charles Griffith
Noone reviews them SGT Jim Z. it is just a form to cover the hiney of the School System in case the worst happens. They can't be denied because they can't be clearly defined hence Philosophical.
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While the study linking ADD to vaccinations has been proven to be faulty, the mathematics of immunization effectiveness rates and herd immunity are solid. Individual anecdotal correlations of ADD with vaccinations are often taken to be causal because we want to blame ADD on something. I am for mandatory vaccinations for all who are physically able to take them, with no exceptions for religious or philosophical reasons. Our lives are much, much better today because of science in general and medical science in particular. It would be a huge step back in time, and in average human life-span, if we allowed the sadness of tragic individual cases to take precedence over scientific study and reason.
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This topic is close to home...
I love peanut butter. It's safe to say it's my favorite, a food group of its own.
I'd eat peanut butter on anything, cardboard if I could.
I remember the peanut butter I found in mess halls in Vietnam. Thick, nasty stuff. Delicious. All you needed was mayonnaise to lubricate its passage. Yum, peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwiches. Still love them.
Applewichs. (Apple slices with peanut butter)
Peanut butter on celery
Peanut butter on the tip of my finger.
Forgive me. I haven't had peanut butter in the past four years. I'm going a little crazy because of it.
My 5 year old granddaughter is allergic and I'm not trusted to even have it in our home. Even if I don't see her all day. No peanut butter for me.
So, do you think I'm sympathetic to kids that can't have peanut butter in school? Hell no. If I can't have it, nobody can have it.
Now, as to vaccinations. Imagine that some few died from vaccinations, yet millions of others were saved by them.
What would you do?
I love peanut butter. It's safe to say it's my favorite, a food group of its own.
I'd eat peanut butter on anything, cardboard if I could.
I remember the peanut butter I found in mess halls in Vietnam. Thick, nasty stuff. Delicious. All you needed was mayonnaise to lubricate its passage. Yum, peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwiches. Still love them.
Applewichs. (Apple slices with peanut butter)
Peanut butter on celery
Peanut butter on the tip of my finger.
Forgive me. I haven't had peanut butter in the past four years. I'm going a little crazy because of it.
My 5 year old granddaughter is allergic and I'm not trusted to even have it in our home. Even if I don't see her all day. No peanut butter for me.
So, do you think I'm sympathetic to kids that can't have peanut butter in school? Hell no. If I can't have it, nobody can have it.
Now, as to vaccinations. Imagine that some few died from vaccinations, yet millions of others were saved by them.
What would you do?
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
CPT Jack Durish The classic greater good argument or to quote star trek the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few (or one depending on which movie).
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Sir,
I have the exact same opinion that you do of Peanut Butter. My soon to be 3 year old is allergic to the stuff and the only time that I have really gotten to eat it is during my deployment to Afghanistan. My wife and I might have a peanut butter event on a date when we are home where we go out and have a Reese Cup or peanut butter ice cream, but nothing with real peanuts, and we always look odd basically disinfecting ourselves before we get into our vehicle to go back home. It is a good thing though because our 4year old knows to ask/tell new people about her little brother's peanut allergy.
Thanks.
I have the exact same opinion that you do of Peanut Butter. My soon to be 3 year old is allergic to the stuff and the only time that I have really gotten to eat it is during my deployment to Afghanistan. My wife and I might have a peanut butter event on a date when we are home where we go out and have a Reese Cup or peanut butter ice cream, but nothing with real peanuts, and we always look odd basically disinfecting ourselves before we get into our vehicle to go back home. It is a good thing though because our 4year old knows to ask/tell new people about her little brother's peanut allergy.
Thanks.
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CPT Jack Durish
LTC (Join to see) would you ask around and see if the Army would take back a 72 year old captain and deploy him to Afghanistan so he could have some peanut butter? I'm a really cranky old man and probably would do more damage than a rifle company
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You sir win the day!
That is by far one of the best things that I have heard in a long time. My hats off to you and I wish I could get you over here, even if just for a day and a peanut butter sandwich.
That is by far one of the best things that I have heard in a long time. My hats off to you and I wish I could get you over here, even if just for a day and a peanut butter sandwich.
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The entire premise of the anti-vaxxer movement is absurd. These people need to do real research; not rely on a doctor who wrote an article he admitted to making false claims in.
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What is more absurd to me is the eagerness of people to categorize all anti-vaxxers as doing so because of Autism or the results of this doctor. On the contrary, anti-vaxxers are some of the most researched people I know. SSG (Join to see), I don't know your background or family status, but in my personal experience, I hesitate before blindly allowing anyone to do or administer anything to my child.
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If your child is vaccinated against (insert disease name) then why are you concerned if other children are not vaccinated against (insert name of disease your child is vaccinated against)?
I'm not blankety opposed to vaccines. I just think that parents have a right to determine the medical care of their children. MMR vaccines seem to be generally safe, but some vaccines are dangerous and/or ineffective. The flu vaccine this year is a great example. The HPV vaccine has serious side effects and there's no reason to vaccinate 8 year old children against a sexually transmitted disease.
I'm not blankety opposed to vaccines. I just think that parents have a right to determine the medical care of their children. MMR vaccines seem to be generally safe, but some vaccines are dangerous and/or ineffective. The flu vaccine this year is a great example. The HPV vaccine has serious side effects and there's no reason to vaccinate 8 year old children against a sexually transmitted disease.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
Because vaccines are not 100% effective, and unvaccinated kids provide a place for these diseases to hide out and evolve. MRSA, anyone?
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Sir, MRSA's prevalence comes from the incorrect and over use of antibiotics not from unvaccinated kids.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
It is true that MRSA comes from misuse of antibiotics. My point is only that diseases can, and do, evolve, and that MRSA is an example of that happening. If you allow a disease a refuge (such as a group of unvaccinated people), it can remain active and mutating until it eventually becomes different enough from the vaccines that it no longer works. Especially if the mutating diseases are constantly coming into contact with vaccinated individuals to try their luck (such as when unvaccinated kids and vaccinated kids share a class room for eight hours a day).
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What if my kid CAN'T have the vax?? I actually have 2 that CAN'T is it their fault? I agree with you if they could have I would have but to say that is unfair to kids who thru no fault of their or their parents CAN'T. Please take this as a caring insight from a brother and not as an admonishment as that is how I intended it.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
Kids who CAN'T get vaccines are a very strong argument for everyone else to get vaccinated.
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SPC Charles Griffith
Even though my kids can't get them I don't feel that gives me the right to demand that others do. I can if it is my choice keep my kids home and home school. I feel that that limits their ability to learn how to properly socialize so I chose to teach my 2 how to identify situations that could be hazardous to them and to avoid them. I realize that it may put them in potentially dangerous situations but that is the world we live in and for me to shield them and expect them to magically figure it out is off the charts crazy IMHO. I have come to the place in life that I realize that we are responsible for our safety and that noone really KNOWS whats right or wrong (if there is even) Bad things happen to good people everyday sometimes it is bad decisions sometimes not. but I will not force my ideals on others simply because I THINK I am right. Hell what if I AM wrong??? not willing to go there. Live your lives as you see fit that is your Right it is most certainly NOT my Right to tell you what that may be. My Right's are only valid up to the point they violate someone else's.
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The anti-vaccination movement isn't new. Here is a political cartoon from the 1940's
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I admit, I giggled...
Could we stop the anti-vaxxers if we said measles contains gluten?
There are schools in the wealthiest parts of Los Angeles where the vaccination rate is on a par with that of South Sudan
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Refusal to vaccinate based on one report by a single quack working for profit is basically saying "I have chosen to ignore literally every other piece of scientific evidence proving that vaccines don't cause autism, and would literally rather bring back deadly diseases and kill other people and their children because I need someone to blame for autism and have full intentions of using this for leverage to not do my part in maintaining herd immunity and meeting the minimum standards of basic human decency by not contributing to the death of others."
Furthermore, even if vaccines DID cause autism (they don't. Full stop.), refusing to vaccinate due to that risk is basically saying "I'd rather risk killing other people, their kids, and my own kid by way of preventable illness than have a healthy child with disabilities."
Furthermore, even if vaccines DID cause autism (they don't. Full stop.), refusing to vaccinate due to that risk is basically saying "I'd rather risk killing other people, their kids, and my own kid by way of preventable illness than have a healthy child with disabilities."
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