Posted on Nov 20, 2013
For my fellow Army NCOs, have you thought about volunteering for Recruiting assignment? If so, what are some questions you have?
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I plan on volunteering and submitting my packet as soon as I hit my 1-year from DEROS date! (Jan 2015) I'm torn between going the Career Counselor or Recruiter route and I've had great feedbacks on both. If I could submit my packet now I definitely would, can I? I love taking care of not just soldiers but "people." My question is: What are the chances that I'll be able to choose a location and actually get it? I would really like to get a location in Florida or somewhere close by.
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SGT Bransford,
Love the enthusiasm! Definitely suggest you read DA PAM 611-21 and familiarize yourself with the requirements to be either a 79R Recruiter or 79S Career Counselor. The next thing to consider is, do you want to help young people enlist or Soldiers to reenlist/extend? I personally had never thought of the 79S route and love the opportunities to step "outside the box" being a Recruiter affords me. Then, I'd look at comparisons of both MOSs' overall personnel size (over/under strengthed?) and promotion trends. That way you aren't only thinking about the upfront MOS decision but long term career impact or potentials as well.
You do have to wait to hit that 6-12 month from DEROS time frame for OCONUS. Volunteers select a total of 9 battalions within 3 brigades (3 per brigade) in order of preference. If your #1 BN choice is at 99% strength or less, you will be assigned to that BN. If the BN is at 100% strength or more, USAREC G-1 looks at your #2 BN choice. This process will continue until you are assigned to the first BN on your list at 99% strength or less. Nothing says you can't call the BNs and see what strength % they are at. Just saying...
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Been there done that, volunteered got picked-up, went to assignment, only a year in got pulled to be part of the then new combat NCO AIT instructor program, would have rather stayed on the trail.
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SFC Rocky Gannon
Recruiting is a great assignment if you make it into one. You are in charge of your destiny that is why I stayed for 11 years.
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My hat's off to you! Don't think I would have enjoyed an instructor assignment myself.
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I have thought of submitting a packet for recruiting. I am currently at Campbell and have been here for 3 years. I am fenced in and deploying in the coming months and wanted to know when is the best time to submit my packet.<br>
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Yes I thought about it. Is it true single Parents can't request recruiting and/or Drill?
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SGT Chavarin,
First, I commend you for your service. I also hope your deployment goes well and is swift!
You can apply while you are deployed if you are within 120 days of your redeployment. You will be required to submit proof of the redeployment date, a photograph in ACUs and a mental evaluation, along with all other required documents.
As you get closer to your redeployment date, I hope you won't hesitate to reach out for any assistance you might need with submitting you Recruiting assignment application. If you choose Recruiting as the next step in your career progression, my suggestion is have your application ready to be postmarked 120 days from your redeployment date.
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SSG Parker,
Being a single parent is a restriction. However, at this time it can be waived on a case by case basis. Applicants of course would have to provide a Family Care Plan. Another consideration is there must be no marital, emotional, medical, financial or family problems that would hamper duty performance.
Recruiting puts NCOs forefront with our communities and takes them away from the close Army support they are used to. So, there is a need for NCOs who are able to remain disciplined and responsible. There is also a great importance for NCOs who understand working early and sometimes long hours or weekends. The lack of familiar support and predictable hours tends to be an issue for single parents. Not really a single parent's fault. Recruiting is a uniquely challenging and demanding position.
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Thanks for that heads up SFC Pierce. When I went back to my saved link, I didn't see a recruiting station for HI, but I thought I recalled a few Recruiters attending EO class with me from HI. Is that a hidden station or does it really not exist?
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Honolulu Recruiting Company which falls under Portland Recruiting Battalion commands the Recruiting Centers for Hawaii. There are several centers. Best wishes!
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I have been wanting to go Recruiting as soon as I have my first NCOER. I just lifted by stabilization code and am ready to move on to bigger and better things. I love speaking to people about the Army and the benifits that it can provide. I know it changed my life for the better and I know it can for others as well. What all do I need to do to get the ball rolling.
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Do you have facebook? You can access more info on my FB profile at: https://www.facebook.com/pages/III-Corps-Outreach-NCO-79R-Liaison-SFC-Pierce/ [login to see] 90507?ref=hl
If not, let me know and I'll direct you to either the RTR team or the Outreach NCO for your Division or Corps.
Serve as USAREC Ambassador to the Operational Force.
Attract high quality NCOs to volunteer for...
Attract high quality NCOs to volunteer for...
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I heard once you become a recruiter it is hard to leave and do other things with the Army is this true?
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SFC Rocky Gannon
SPC Yelle No if you do your tour which is 3 years you go back to your MOS unless you want to reclassify
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SPC Yelle,
Going to say you probably got some bad intel. There are plenty of 18 series, CSMs to include former Sergeant Majors of the Army and officers that have done Recruiting duty. The truth is regardless if you are DA selected or volunteer, detail recruiters are only on a three year assignment. There are options to extend. Also, if one requests and is selected, one might convert to PMOS 79R. Generally speaking, it's not easy for most to meet the requirements of Recruiting assignment (I.e. credit, moral and service background history).
So, those more junior NCOs who take the assignment and embrace its challenges tend to earn a promotion during that time. Consider the fact promotion boards are required to look favorably upon Recruiting duty in a NCOs history. The hard part I'd say is that detail Recruiters need to stay up to date on and informed of relevant changes within their PMOS. All the NCOs that I have worked with that had good work ethic and understood their leadership/individual challenges went back and have been greatly successful in their original MOSs. Mind you these NCOs are those that strive for 300 APFTs and go to NCO/Sergeant Audie Murphy boards. They made their duties a priority and stayed out of trouble, which is reflected in their NCOERs.
The Army does not hand out opportunities and promotions to those that aren't willing to work for and show they deserve them. Sometimes NCOs come out to Recruiting and find they don't have the leadership qualities to be successful in high demand positions.
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Thank you for the advice when I pick up my 5 I will consider applying for recruiter positions.
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It is a real good idea. I volunteered and wanted Raleigh NC but available posted were decided by how you finished in the class, top in class, first pick. I finished 2nd and was given the choice of Santa Anna Ca or Cincinnati, Oh. I picked Cincinnati as it was closer to Raleigh. I spent 3 years in Cincinnati as field recruiter and then 1 and a half years in Cleveland Oh as Nurse recruiter. I was promoted from Staff Sergeant to Sergeant First Class. As a field recruiter, I earned The Gold recruiter badge with three Sapphires. and I had time enough to graduate from Urbana University with a BS degree. Same choice! without a doubt..............
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Why is it so hard for former recruiters to come back? When I was out there they wouldn't let any convert. I was a very successful recruiter receiving all awards to include medallion but they still wouldn't let anyone stay.
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SFC Grudzinski,
Wish I had an answer for you there. I think a lot of the ill-perceptions and factors that effected the 79R MOS in a negative way in the past up to now stem from the poor leaders and those NCOs they "mentored" during the time-frame you were in USAREC. So, maybe count it a blessing you didn't convert.
Right now, a significant portion of the senior leadership and recruiting force were effected by ALARACT 147. Up side is there is room for the new up-coming senior leaders to grow and bring up more true leaders. Something well needed.
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I recently applied for a recruiting duty tour and was denied because I have no combat deployments. At least I tried.
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SGT Goolsby,
Seriously you were told this? I have no combat experience and I have been in Recruiting since 2002. Wow I would love to hear your story. I'm pretty sure SFC Pierce can assist.
Seriously you were told this? I have no combat experience and I have been in Recruiting since 2002. Wow I would love to hear your story. I'm pretty sure SFC Pierce can assist.
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SGT Goolsby,
Shoot me an email at [login to see] please. Combat deployments are not a part of any requirement for Recruiting assignment. I'm curious about who told you this and how you submitted your application.
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