Fraternization and the Reserves - Where is the line?

After reading the regulations I am still looking for answers just based on status. Say an AGR SSG meets (in the civilian world) a traditional 1LT. They hit it off and they want to start dating. They are apart of two different state National Guards and the 1LT is not anywhere near the SSGs chain of command. Does this fall in the exception?

I read in the reg about how if they are both traditional, because it is a primarily civilian relationship it does. But does the AGR status effect this?

Two different state National Guard?
Completely different MOSs.

Though I never fraternized, reserve components may be more lax with this due to they also have Civilian jobs. I her two rather funny situations. While in the Pennsylvania National Guard, I was a truck driver. I arrived at a warehouse for a drop off and pickup. The dock workers had to load and upload to my specifications. One of the workers was my Company Commander. A few years later I was in Florida working security with an International Company, with the company I was a Major. In the Guard, I was a spec 4. Didn't take promotions because I didn't want to change units. Any way, 3 kids that worked for me for the company, were in the unit. 2 were 2nd Lt's and one 1st Lt.
On one of our extended training weekends, I was with the Co, the Blt Co and Co. I was the Supply Sgt. and without a company XO, the supply Sgt acts as the XO.
Well the 3 Lt's walk up to us and said "excuse us Sir" So the Blt. XO said yes, they replied sorry not you Sir, we need to speak to Me. Canning.
The the Blt. XO stared and the Co explained to him I was their boss in their civilian jobs. Lol They needed to talk to me about having the day off the day after we got back.

It's because of situations like this, where roles may be reversed or you may by co workers in civilian jobs, that fraterniznation may be more lax in reserve components.

Military service is VOLUNTARY.
When you join YOU agree to live under and abide by THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE.
That is all.

There ia a difference between fraternization and socialization. An interesting observation associated with this particular issues is the ever decreasing level of education gap between officares and enlisted, particularly within the Reserve Component. Additionally, enlisted Soldiers have been assuming and performing duties previously performed by officers leaving officers to their own devices frequently resulting in conduct incongruent qith good order and discipline.

When I first joined the Air National Guard, my older sister was in a different unit, she worked first in a different part of the State, then at OTAG. When she transferred into my squadron, she became my NCOIC. Our personal relationship outside the Squadron, and our professional relationship in the Squadron, were kept separate. A few years later I met and started dating my husband, who was also in my Squadron.
On a different note, one of our Squadron Commanders, a Major, was married to an A1C assigned to our Group Headquarters. She was not under his command, and did not deploy with us. Guard and Reserve is a different world then Active Duty.

it is difficult to work with a guy all month long as Jim and one weekend he is now Msgt. Buck, even harder when during the month you are the lead at the shop and he answers to you. however it's not about you it is about the mission.

Active Duty and Reserves serve together, especially during mobilization into hostile areas! Separation of rank and First Name identification is a must for good order and discipline. No favoritism for Reserve friends over Active Duty. Rank and last name is proper protocol

I knew an AD E-3 in the Navy who was getting with an O-4...

It wasn’t fraternization but I actually got a counseling from the 1st Sgt for stopping a female soldier from slipping on ice. Reached out to catch her & rubbed her breast in the process. She reported it.
#DramaQueen

Regulations are there for a reason. When you relax or change a regulation for the U.S.Reserves all that you are doing is setting that Soldier up for failer, because when that Soldier goes on his Annual Training or is mobilized or deployed he could get himself in a lot of trouble or try to use that as a defense. As the old saying goes, if it's not broke don't fix it!