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This lone protester is standing outside the suspected gunmen's apartment complex in Texas' cartoon shooting. This picture was taken by a bystander, but because of his shirt, he is getting flack. What do you think?
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Under the 1st Amendment he is allowed to wear that shirt, no less than someone is allowed to step on the U.S. flag. But like many of our Amendments, I think they are misinterpreted from their original meaning. Just because you can say something doesn't always mean you should or have to. There is no question this was meant to offend, yet he used his constitutional right do do so. I think he just needs to be educated on what he believes is the right thing to do. He can get his message across, and more affectivly might I add, if he were to educate himself on open dialogue. Just my two cents, afforded to me by the 1st Amendment.
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When ISIS are decapitating people for being Christians, and others for not being Muslim the way ISIS thinks they should, we should set the example for the entire world by being nice.
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Sgt Nick Marshall
Then say f#%^ ISIS, my girlfriend is a Turkish Muslim who hates ISIS, stop steteotyping.
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SPC Dennis Yaste
Should Christians getting decapitated be nice too? This reminds me of our Commander in Chief's apology for America tour. How is that working out? 'Be nice' is the most ridiculous statement in this thread. As Benjamin Netanyahu once said. "When your enemies tell you they want to kill you, you should believe them!"
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I agree with SFC Mark Merino, SPC (Join to see). It's freedom of speech AND it's inflammatory.
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I agree that it is but it is not only inflammatory, but it is anti-American. Many forget the First Amendment of the Constitution; a document that we all raised our hand and swore to support and defend.
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CW4 Abdulaziz Bulling, I’d love to hear your explanation on how this man expressing his 1st amendment right to free speech is anti-American. He’s expressing his opinion on a religion. He’s not forbidding anyone from exercising their religion.
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Freedom of speech is exactly that, what it is not is Freedom of speech untill you offend someone. If it was we would never have had the Declaration of Independence, ever wonder what the King thought of that? Nope me neither.
Like it or not this is our nation, our ideals our very rights will always conflict with Islam, as the two are incompatible.
For those who say just because you can say or do that doesn't mean you should, forget that say it because freedom of speech wasn't designed to salvage your petite sensibility's.
Like it or not this is our nation, our ideals our very rights will always conflict with Islam, as the two are incompatible.
For those who say just because you can say or do that doesn't mean you should, forget that say it because freedom of speech wasn't designed to salvage your petite sensibility's.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
I think, "Freedom of speech is exactly that, what it is not is Freedom of speech until you offend someone" is a super liberal response and it's no case law I know of that supports that.
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SGT Kevin Gardner
SGT Luke Fouquier
I love when people tell me that people like me have a narrow world view or even a limited view of something. From your post I see you take the revisionist history view point, what is revisionist history? The answer is simple it is a viewpoint that is written about Islam from a western view point, integrating some Islamic viewpoints.
Islam was founded in the Arabian desert in 622AD, the tenets that Islam is built on is Plunder, convert or die, and constant warfare. This is the real Islam the Islam of today is no different than the Islam of yesterday. From the beginning Mohammed took both the religion as well as politics and combined the two, it is safe to say that this is where the first Caliphate.
Mohammed had ordered the people the people of Medina to convert, when the Hebrew people rejected his order he turned against the Hebrew people. This is the first part of Islam that conflicts with our American and or western ideals. The right, the freedom to worship as one chooses.
The second conflict with American and or western Ideals comes from the fact that we prize highly one’s ability to entrepreneurship, Earning through hard work and determination. In Islamic culture being a successful man of business is looked as being weak, a man who is incapable of being manly in the ways of warfare and plunder.
The third conflict with our western ideals is how we treat our women, now it was not always the case here but we had what people call a reformation in how we view the roles women have in our culture. In Islam the woman is no better than the goats they use for slaughter. Whatever rights Islam grants a woman are only theirs until the Government or their men take those away. Take the time and seek out the stories of woman who have broken free of Islam.
After that I would suggest you read the Book by Masab Hassan Yousef : Son of Hamas
I find what people being taught in school today purposely pushes a Liberal viewpoint ignoring the facts in order to give you a warm fuzzy feeling. However if you take what the professor teaches then go out and research on your own you will find that the facts can stand on their own.
I had been taking History classes and by History I mean world History, I also took a cultural anthropology course from a professor here at a state community college. Now that cultural anthropology professor was a dyed in the wool communist, how do I know this? Simple really he told me he was. That got me to thinking that everything this man teaches needs to be questioned if simply to make sure what I was learning was the truth. Turns out the man is a hack and everything he teaches he puts a communist twist on.
No I stand by what I said Islam is not compatible with our ideals or our values. And you want to know something else Thomas Jefferson felt the same way along with a few other of our founders, and that is a fact.
I love when people tell me that people like me have a narrow world view or even a limited view of something. From your post I see you take the revisionist history view point, what is revisionist history? The answer is simple it is a viewpoint that is written about Islam from a western view point, integrating some Islamic viewpoints.
Islam was founded in the Arabian desert in 622AD, the tenets that Islam is built on is Plunder, convert or die, and constant warfare. This is the real Islam the Islam of today is no different than the Islam of yesterday. From the beginning Mohammed took both the religion as well as politics and combined the two, it is safe to say that this is where the first Caliphate.
Mohammed had ordered the people the people of Medina to convert, when the Hebrew people rejected his order he turned against the Hebrew people. This is the first part of Islam that conflicts with our American and or western ideals. The right, the freedom to worship as one chooses.
The second conflict with American and or western Ideals comes from the fact that we prize highly one’s ability to entrepreneurship, Earning through hard work and determination. In Islamic culture being a successful man of business is looked as being weak, a man who is incapable of being manly in the ways of warfare and plunder.
The third conflict with our western ideals is how we treat our women, now it was not always the case here but we had what people call a reformation in how we view the roles women have in our culture. In Islam the woman is no better than the goats they use for slaughter. Whatever rights Islam grants a woman are only theirs until the Government or their men take those away. Take the time and seek out the stories of woman who have broken free of Islam.
After that I would suggest you read the Book by Masab Hassan Yousef : Son of Hamas
I find what people being taught in school today purposely pushes a Liberal viewpoint ignoring the facts in order to give you a warm fuzzy feeling. However if you take what the professor teaches then go out and research on your own you will find that the facts can stand on their own.
I had been taking History classes and by History I mean world History, I also took a cultural anthropology course from a professor here at a state community college. Now that cultural anthropology professor was a dyed in the wool communist, how do I know this? Simple really he told me he was. That got me to thinking that everything this man teaches needs to be questioned if simply to make sure what I was learning was the truth. Turns out the man is a hack and everything he teaches he puts a communist twist on.
No I stand by what I said Islam is not compatible with our ideals or our values. And you want to know something else Thomas Jefferson felt the same way along with a few other of our founders, and that is a fact.
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SPC Dennis Yaste
This is accurate by my studies, Sgt Kevin Gardner. The peaceful majority of Muslims have moderated from the Islamic foundation, which is why ISIS considers them 'not real Muslims.'
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It fuels a fire that doesn't need fueling. If you are so uneducated or unaware that you believe the issue is with Islam or Muslims then you seriously need to check yourself. There are better ways for a group of people to fix any alleged issue. Every religion and every culture has extremists. The KKK would go to town if able.
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I am reminded of Walter Matthau in First Monday in October regarding a "F*CK THE WHITE HOUSE" t-shirt (or some such)
"Since the act can not be accomplished it can not be assault, therefor it is protected speech"
"Since the act can not be accomplished it can not be assault, therefor it is protected speech"
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It is morally wrong to me. But yes freedom of speech. Just as much as walking on the flag is morally wrong but freedom of speech. I don't think either shows Americans as smart people. It shows us as ignorant idiots that believe in freedoms...but only if they work for our personal beliefs. Freedom of speech and religion are two of the things our founding fathers wanted us to have. Not because we are awesome, but because to have a country by, for, and of the people you need to have every person have a voice. And you need to not say one person is better than the other due to religion or whatever. You need to have a country that gives a person the right to say FU to the president and not be dead within hours. The problem is everyone is not thinking for the people but instead they are tied up in politics and personal feelings. What has that guy above done to help America? He is holding a flag that to him represents America, yet he is rubbing a giant turd in its face by wearing a idiotic t-shirt that is inflammatory and against the same freedom that gives him the right to say that. Do you think this guy is what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution? Do you think they thought people would be walking on the flag that represents the very country and beliefs that give them the right to walk on it? I believe these people are idiots. I think if people actually understood that the flag represents that they might instead of walking on it hold it up high as they protested. That would be using the rights and not pissing on them at the same time. I believe that if a guy wants to say if you mess with the bull you get the horns then say that but holding a flag and saying a specific religion is whatever and not welcome is again pissing on the very thing you are holding.
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He is free to protest, no matter how misguided he may seem. But his shirt is extremely inappropriate. I am really disappointed he chose to wave my flag wearing such hideous shirt.
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