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Thoughts about 'generic' comments in NCOERs/OERs?
I don't think I'm authorized 'pet-peeves' yet because I'm not a Sergeant Major (that's a joke), but nothing screams, "I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY CAREER" more than an NCO looking toward the senior NCO ranks with 'generic' NCOER bullets.
Have you really not done enough in one or more of your evaluated areas to give SPECIFIC/QUANTIFIABLE comments about your or your rated NCO's performance? Or do not know how to put this into writing?
Or, bare with me, you're too lazy to care about you or your rated NCO's career to be specific about the previous year's accomplishments.
Note: I understand and can understand that there may be a 90-day+ change of rater evaluation that incorporates generic bullets.
I don't think I'm authorized 'pet-peeves' yet because I'm not a Sergeant Major (that's a joke), but nothing screams, "I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY CAREER" more than an NCO looking toward the senior NCO ranks with 'generic' NCOER bullets.
Have you really not done enough in one or more of your evaluated areas to give SPECIFIC/QUANTIFIABLE comments about your or your rated NCO's performance? Or do not know how to put this into writing?
Or, bare with me, you're too lazy to care about you or your rated NCO's career to be specific about the previous year's accomplishments.
Note: I understand and can understand that there may be a 90-day+ change of rater evaluation that incorporates generic bullets.
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Generic bullets are crap. Why fill a ncoer with them? They do nothing to support a excellence. A success is done by accomplishing your job and daily missions. Do them and you get a not so generic bullet that is easily measurable and quantifiable. Do nothing and get nothing is the way I see it.
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I'm with SSG Burns on this. I'd rather have 2 3-line, quantitative and qualitative bullets than 3 condensed bullets that don't accurately describe or full describe that the NCO did.
My pet peeve is that I have to sacrifice a bullet space in the leadership section for a cookie cutter bullet about supporting SHARP and EO. I understand that they are important programs but now we are losing out on having other leadership examples from being recognized on the NCOER if there are more than two examples.
My biggest question is, since when can someone not in the rating scheme and who is not the rater, dictate what we as the raters put as the NCO'S bullets.
My pet peeve is that I have to sacrifice a bullet space in the leadership section for a cookie cutter bullet about supporting SHARP and EO. I understand that they are important programs but now we are losing out on having other leadership examples from being recognized on the NCOER if there are more than two examples.
My biggest question is, since when can someone not in the rating scheme and who is not the rater, dictate what we as the raters put as the NCO'S bullets.
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MSG(P) Quick,
I think the main reason I have ever used generic comments is to ensure that there are more than two bullets on the NCOER or OER. It is very hard to write some evaluations specifically in the Reserve Components when a NCO goes to a school and then does not go to the annual training. Well we cannot write about the school if they received a 1059 so you are limited down to 24 days and in reality half of that is mandatory training and random other items. I try to limit it to one generic bullet per block.
The other reason is to convey in a discrete way that they are just like anyone else without writing "Soldier leads like every other E5 that was promoted this year".
I strive though to even turn generic comments into personalized comments. I personally think that all evaluations should be narratives to help paint a picture of the Soldier being evaluated. It is hard to get a full reading on a Soldier in two sentences at a time. Paragraphs help tie things together and paint a better picture in my opinion. So when you become SMA you can adjust the NCOERs (again as I hear they are doing something with them next year).
I think the main reason I have ever used generic comments is to ensure that there are more than two bullets on the NCOER or OER. It is very hard to write some evaluations specifically in the Reserve Components when a NCO goes to a school and then does not go to the annual training. Well we cannot write about the school if they received a 1059 so you are limited down to 24 days and in reality half of that is mandatory training and random other items. I try to limit it to one generic bullet per block.
The other reason is to convey in a discrete way that they are just like anyone else without writing "Soldier leads like every other E5 that was promoted this year".
I strive though to even turn generic comments into personalized comments. I personally think that all evaluations should be narratives to help paint a picture of the Soldier being evaluated. It is hard to get a full reading on a Soldier in two sentences at a time. Paragraphs help tie things together and paint a better picture in my opinion. So when you become SMA you can adjust the NCOERs (again as I hear they are doing something with them next year).
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I've seen a lot of Excellences with 1/1 and generic bullets pulled straight off NCOER Help sites. Those NCOER's are going to be highly criticized during the board and it will likely hurt them.
The only time I can see them not being too critical about generic bullets is if it's a 90 day COR where the NCO got a 2/2 with no excellences. Though I have no idea how they would take something like that for a board review, assuming all of your other NCOER's are 1/1's with good bullets.
The only time I can see them not being too critical about generic bullets is if it's a 90 day COR where the NCO got a 2/2 with no excellences. Though I have no idea how they would take something like that for a board review, assuming all of your other NCOER's are 1/1's with good bullets.
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I never write a generic bullet for my NCOs. EVER. And kick them back if I'm reviewing them. The only exceptions are maybe the "no drug or alcohol incidents" bullet
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