Posted on Aug 28, 2015
Getting ready for a divorce...any help would be awesome..... I'm kinda scared.
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Twenty-five years ago, Larry, when I came home one fateful night after work and found an empty home, I first thought we'd been burglarized. When it finally sunk in what had happened, I went into the family room leaned against the wall, slide down it until my butt hit the floor and my knees were up in my chest. That's where my recliner had been. I looked across the room at the opposite wall, where the TV once sat, and stared at that empty space for FOUR solid hours, without moving once. I can't even remember breathing. The phone was ringing off the hook. I would later learn that several of "my" friends helped my eventual Ex to begin the entire move right after I left for work that morning. It had all been planned out in advance. She'd even signed a lease on a condo three months earlier. I had been wondering why some of bills weren't being paid.
The difference between you and me, Larry, is that you know your divorce is coming. If everything has been tried to save the marriage, or you have both mutually agreed that this ain't happening anymore, then you are well ahead of the curve. I was completely blindsided. 'Nuther story.
Anyhow, here's my advice:
1. Forget the books your friends will suggest you read about divorce. That's someone else's response to it on their terms.
2. Take no one's personal advice, even from your best friend. That was his experience. You have to walk this path by yourself. Only you can respond to the changes that will occur in ways that will make you comfortable. NO book can teach you that. ZIP. NADA.
3. Please, do not attend some Self-Help group counseling for post-decree divorcees. After one meeting, you'll need a Shrink for three years!!!
4. Most importantly, if it is really, truly over, shut that door and lock it. I literally burned photos out in the backyard over my new BBQ grill...the relief it gave me was palpable. It wasn't vindictiveness, but more like a cleansing. For me, it was necessary, and it worked wonders for my self-esteem.
5. Jump back into life immediately. Church, work, ballgames with buddies. Pity parties will "kill" your recovery time.
6. If there are kids, this will be harder on them. Never show them anger, or bitterness, or regrets. Enjoy your time with them, but be ready to LISTEN. A LOT!!! Major important!!!
7. Remember Rules #1 and #2. My experience and this advice is what I learned ON MY OWN. I listened to no one, I read no books. I watched no videos. Those were other people's answers and solutions. I didn't have to read one single page of one single book to know it would do nothing for me. I was walking on virgin ground. I had to go it alone and feel my way through it, day by day. The first two days, I worked, spoke very little to anyone, and told no one anything. But the third day was a near complete collapse as the full realization of what had happened and what I was facing finally set in. Then I set about doing the things I wrote above and next.
8. The most important thing I forced myself to comprehend was that the things I lost in the divorce, whether small or substantial, were all "boxes of stuff." I needed to, and I did, convince myself it was just stuff. Stuff I could replace or stuff with which I no longer needed to be identified. That was the second major mental cleansing I needed to experience.
9. Remember, your marriage didn't begin in one day, I'm sure. Neither will this major alteration to it and your reconciliation with it occur in twenty-four hours. It will take time. YOU are the keeper of that clock. And only you.
10. What I've written was the prescription I wrote for myself, just as the clock ticked away from the first moment it all slapped me in the head to the day I finally woke up and had not one single thought about what had been. That was a good day. And I can't begin to tell you what date it was, either. Because it was just another day for me.
SPC Larry Boutwell: Good luck. There's a very favorite book of mine entitled, " Don't Sweat The Small Stuff......And It's All Small Stuff!!!" It can be read in one hour. I've read it scores of times. I've learned that most of life really is made of small stuff. Inconsequential stuff and the few things that really are significant stuff. It's your turn to figure what goes in those two columns for yourself. That's why I've told you from the beginning that this is where you can only work this out yourself. Only you can list what goes in those two columns in your life. No book nor any other person can do it for you.
The difference between you and me, Larry, is that you know your divorce is coming. If everything has been tried to save the marriage, or you have both mutually agreed that this ain't happening anymore, then you are well ahead of the curve. I was completely blindsided. 'Nuther story.
Anyhow, here's my advice:
1. Forget the books your friends will suggest you read about divorce. That's someone else's response to it on their terms.
2. Take no one's personal advice, even from your best friend. That was his experience. You have to walk this path by yourself. Only you can respond to the changes that will occur in ways that will make you comfortable. NO book can teach you that. ZIP. NADA.
3. Please, do not attend some Self-Help group counseling for post-decree divorcees. After one meeting, you'll need a Shrink for three years!!!
4. Most importantly, if it is really, truly over, shut that door and lock it. I literally burned photos out in the backyard over my new BBQ grill...the relief it gave me was palpable. It wasn't vindictiveness, but more like a cleansing. For me, it was necessary, and it worked wonders for my self-esteem.
5. Jump back into life immediately. Church, work, ballgames with buddies. Pity parties will "kill" your recovery time.
6. If there are kids, this will be harder on them. Never show them anger, or bitterness, or regrets. Enjoy your time with them, but be ready to LISTEN. A LOT!!! Major important!!!
7. Remember Rules #1 and #2. My experience and this advice is what I learned ON MY OWN. I listened to no one, I read no books. I watched no videos. Those were other people's answers and solutions. I didn't have to read one single page of one single book to know it would do nothing for me. I was walking on virgin ground. I had to go it alone and feel my way through it, day by day. The first two days, I worked, spoke very little to anyone, and told no one anything. But the third day was a near complete collapse as the full realization of what had happened and what I was facing finally set in. Then I set about doing the things I wrote above and next.
8. The most important thing I forced myself to comprehend was that the things I lost in the divorce, whether small or substantial, were all "boxes of stuff." I needed to, and I did, convince myself it was just stuff. Stuff I could replace or stuff with which I no longer needed to be identified. That was the second major mental cleansing I needed to experience.
9. Remember, your marriage didn't begin in one day, I'm sure. Neither will this major alteration to it and your reconciliation with it occur in twenty-four hours. It will take time. YOU are the keeper of that clock. And only you.
10. What I've written was the prescription I wrote for myself, just as the clock ticked away from the first moment it all slapped me in the head to the day I finally woke up and had not one single thought about what had been. That was a good day. And I can't begin to tell you what date it was, either. Because it was just another day for me.
SPC Larry Boutwell: Good luck. There's a very favorite book of mine entitled, " Don't Sweat The Small Stuff......And It's All Small Stuff!!!" It can be read in one hour. I've read it scores of times. I've learned that most of life really is made of small stuff. Inconsequential stuff and the few things that really are significant stuff. It's your turn to figure what goes in those two columns for yourself. That's why I've told you from the beginning that this is where you can only work this out yourself. Only you can list what goes in those two columns in your life. No book nor any other person can do it for you.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
Fabulous advice, and I might add, get yourself an attorney because you wont know what all your rights are or the fairness of the divorce decree.
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Thank you, Brothers, for your kind words. Mine was a costly experience, but one in which I learned a number of priceless lessons about life and myself. MSG (Join to see), MSG (Join to see), and MAJ Ken Landgren.
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Capt (Join to see)
Life is short. Make the best of each day. I wish you future happiness and you will have it when you are ready and you take control of your life.
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SPC Larry Boutwell, I am further down the path - I expect my wife to move out in a month or so. We should finalize things before year's end.
I believe that we hit on a novel approach. When she hit me with the news shortly after I returned home from Africa, I was devastated. I stayed that way for about six months as life unraveled and I discovered the depth of the problem.
We have three children together in our 16 plus years of marriage, 9, 8, and 3. Once the realization that it was really over and not going to get fixed sunk in, I went to work on the desired outcome. The children were my priority. I sat down with Melissa and we talked it out. It took many sessions, but eventually reality and what was best for the kids won out.
What is unique about us is that we are basically figuring out the entirety of the divorce terms between us. This saves a fortune in attorney fees and untold amounts of goodwill. We obviously don't completely agree, but once the broad brushstrokes were figured out, the rest came together.
She left our finances in shambles, my trust in people badly damaged, and I've watched her devolve in front of my eyes, but we will be OK.
Change is hard. You lived with her. You shared dreams and memories together. You swore to be with one another forever, and now it isn't going to be.
Take the time to grieve.
Then get back on the horse and live. Travel. Play cards with the guys. Go on the long fishing weekends that she always gave you a hard time about. Watch the game on TV, and invite the neighbors over for a burger and a beer.
You aren't alone.
If there is any help and insight I can offer, all you need do is ask.
Good luck, Larry.
I believe that we hit on a novel approach. When she hit me with the news shortly after I returned home from Africa, I was devastated. I stayed that way for about six months as life unraveled and I discovered the depth of the problem.
We have three children together in our 16 plus years of marriage, 9, 8, and 3. Once the realization that it was really over and not going to get fixed sunk in, I went to work on the desired outcome. The children were my priority. I sat down with Melissa and we talked it out. It took many sessions, but eventually reality and what was best for the kids won out.
What is unique about us is that we are basically figuring out the entirety of the divorce terms between us. This saves a fortune in attorney fees and untold amounts of goodwill. We obviously don't completely agree, but once the broad brushstrokes were figured out, the rest came together.
She left our finances in shambles, my trust in people badly damaged, and I've watched her devolve in front of my eyes, but we will be OK.
Change is hard. You lived with her. You shared dreams and memories together. You swore to be with one another forever, and now it isn't going to be.
Take the time to grieve.
Then get back on the horse and live. Travel. Play cards with the guys. Go on the long fishing weekends that she always gave you a hard time about. Watch the game on TV, and invite the neighbors over for a burger and a beer.
You aren't alone.
If there is any help and insight I can offer, all you need do is ask.
Good luck, Larry.
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SPC Larry Boutwell
Its just sad that... Well you would think id ve sad about it... Im not.....not even a lil bit.... Ive found that i love it when she isnt around...or asleep...because then i dont have to hear her voice any more.....we skipped the sleeping in dofferent beds stage and went straight to different rooms... Shes always telling me that i ruined her life and that im ruining my kids life because i wont go to the va... All the va does is send me into panoc attacks and they dont help me any way..... I just want the stress to stop... I can feel it killng me...constant fights about how all dishes being in the sink and the kitchen a mess because she doesnt help me with the dishes...ever...9 years and i think shes done the dishes maybe 10 times....not exaggerating... Alll she ever does is sleep or watch netflix for thw most part.....we havent had sex in months.......and all i can thibk of is ....im gonna be paying for this for the rest of my life??????
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SPC Larry Boutwell, it hurts, I know.
Save yourself some stress and don't count on her for anything for a while. She has checked out. Every time you nag and she blows you off, she gains a little bit of power. Take this as an opportunity to assert your own independence. As you launder your own clothes and buy groceries you like, she'll come back to life. Dishes is a little battle; there are bigger fish to fry. Sounds like it was never her deal anyway (my wife hated and shunned laundry - a real problem when I deployed), it isn't going to change now.
Your comment to me throws me a bit.
First, the numbness stage hit me about two weeks after I was served the actual divorce petition. Until then, I didn't want to believe it was going to happen. Reading what you have to say brings that memory back. All I can say is lean on others. Talk to them. It helps you process what you are living. You might not feel better, but it'll make more sense to you.
Second, you've expressed what some of the genesis of this is. Is getting a divorce her idea or yours? Are you trying to understand what her motives are, or trying to comprehend what might be "wrong" with you? She will tell you it is all your fault, hence the "ruining her life" crack.
The temptation is to blame yourself or blame her. The truth is both of you played a role in getting where you're at. Blame might provide an outlet, but it is completely non-constructive. Try to suppress that instinct for now. Calmly assess your situation and come up with reasonable outcomes that both of you can accept. The biggest issue is custody. Followed by monetary concerns. Followed by disposition of property. Get a competent attorney - a good one is worth every penny - and figure out what is important to you and get advise to strategize how to get there.
You have to get off the reactive stage and get the initiative or you will wind up with the short end of the stick.
If you can cooperate with your wife, do it. If you can't, don't expend too much energy convincing her. Again, you're just empowering bad behavior.
If your goal is to repair the marriage (it doesn't look like it, but if it can be done...), that is a whole 'nother conversation. Message me directly, if you don't want your business all over the internet. I think I can help. This damn near killed me last winter. I hate to see others hurting.
Stay strong, Larry.
Save yourself some stress and don't count on her for anything for a while. She has checked out. Every time you nag and she blows you off, she gains a little bit of power. Take this as an opportunity to assert your own independence. As you launder your own clothes and buy groceries you like, she'll come back to life. Dishes is a little battle; there are bigger fish to fry. Sounds like it was never her deal anyway (my wife hated and shunned laundry - a real problem when I deployed), it isn't going to change now.
Your comment to me throws me a bit.
First, the numbness stage hit me about two weeks after I was served the actual divorce petition. Until then, I didn't want to believe it was going to happen. Reading what you have to say brings that memory back. All I can say is lean on others. Talk to them. It helps you process what you are living. You might not feel better, but it'll make more sense to you.
Second, you've expressed what some of the genesis of this is. Is getting a divorce her idea or yours? Are you trying to understand what her motives are, or trying to comprehend what might be "wrong" with you? She will tell you it is all your fault, hence the "ruining her life" crack.
The temptation is to blame yourself or blame her. The truth is both of you played a role in getting where you're at. Blame might provide an outlet, but it is completely non-constructive. Try to suppress that instinct for now. Calmly assess your situation and come up with reasonable outcomes that both of you can accept. The biggest issue is custody. Followed by monetary concerns. Followed by disposition of property. Get a competent attorney - a good one is worth every penny - and figure out what is important to you and get advise to strategize how to get there.
You have to get off the reactive stage and get the initiative or you will wind up with the short end of the stick.
If you can cooperate with your wife, do it. If you can't, don't expend too much energy convincing her. Again, you're just empowering bad behavior.
If your goal is to repair the marriage (it doesn't look like it, but if it can be done...), that is a whole 'nother conversation. Message me directly, if you don't want your business all over the internet. I think I can help. This damn near killed me last winter. I hate to see others hurting.
Stay strong, Larry.
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Man, been there done that. Try and be as civil as you can. It will make the process much easier. Do you have children?
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SSG Toryn Green
I completely understand. Just remember that your number one priority should be those children. When going through the divorce process, make sure that you two keep those kids the priority and do what's best for them. It sounds like you've had it pretty rough and I wish you the absolute best. I had a son with my ex. Keeping him as our priority, we chose to do our custody as joint. She has him during the school year, I get him all summer, spring break, and every other Christmas break. It's much easier on a kid that way than the back and forth every other weekend. That is really hard on them as it doesn't give them much of an opportunity to adjust to their surroundings and get comfortable. Please let me know if you have any specific issues or questions. I'll be mor e than happy to provide whatever advice I can!
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