Posted on Jul 22, 2015
Global warming + unemployment = ISIS. What do you think?
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*Edit* Bernie Sanders has notoriously doubled down on said theory.* State Department Spokesman Marie Harf infamously claimed that joblesness causes young muslim men to want to wage jihad. Democrat presidential candidate Martin O'Malley claims that global warming was the genesis for ISIS. There seems to be credible evidence to the contrary in that the TN jihadi was well off, well educated, and by most accounts not suffering from any other oppressive setbacks or disadvantages. The same holds true for the 2009 Ft Hood jihadi now serving a special duty assignment in Leavenworth. As to ISIS in Syria and Iraq, may I present Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE as contrary evidence. Muslim countries, low employment rates of about 30-40%. The difference is how they manage their resources. If ISIS members truly wanted employment they could easily work in iraqi oil fields, pipeline, refinery and terminal operations, not to mention work with the Kurds (haha, funny, I know) to encourage agriculture.
Do you believe what they're telling you?
Now I'd like to offer a possible solution: The coming mini ice age. There it is. The antidote to global warming, and the solution to isis. Apart from eradicating them militarily we have hope for the future because one of the main causes of ISIS will be gone. The sun will go to sleep, the earth will cool, young muslim men won't have to languish in un-airconditioned discomfort. They'll be able to go out and start a garden, shovel snow for extra money, and all will be right with the world.
What say you RP?
Do you believe what they're telling you?
Now I'd like to offer a possible solution: The coming mini ice age. There it is. The antidote to global warming, and the solution to isis. Apart from eradicating them militarily we have hope for the future because one of the main causes of ISIS will be gone. The sun will go to sleep, the earth will cool, young muslim men won't have to languish in un-airconditioned discomfort. They'll be able to go out and start a garden, shovel snow for extra money, and all will be right with the world.
What say you RP?
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ISIS is strictly an extreme religious ideology called Islamic Terrorism and it's not caused by global warming (which I believe doesn't even exist) or unemployment. It's caused by adults (if you can call them that) brainwashing children.
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They have been fighting for centuries. The bottom line is the fighters, who are uneducated and are being manipulated by the leadership, who are educated. They are promised money, food and other stuff while being filled with their perverted twist of the quran. Because they are providing the with all stuff they didn't have before they become brain washed and really believe in their ideals and their version of the quran. My thoughts.
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I think it was hot in the Middle East long before global warming.
They're right about one thing though. If we didn't need to buy their oil, there wouldn't be an Al Queda or ISIS. When the day comes that the oil runs out or is no longer needed in the West, there will be a reckoning for all of these governments in the area.
They're right about one thing though. If we didn't need to buy their oil, there wouldn't be an Al Queda or ISIS. When the day comes that the oil runs out or is no longer needed in the West, there will be a reckoning for all of these governments in the area.
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These people have been fighting with each other all the way back in time till before time was even recorded. climate has nothing to do with it.
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Why Do People Become Islamic Extremists?
What makes someone become an Islamic extremist? Is it poverty? Lack of education? A search for meaning? Haroon Ullah, a senior State Department advisor and a...
Poverty DOES play into it some, but it's not the only cause. I think this video breaks it down better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IchGuL501U&ab_channel=PragerUniversity
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SGT Jeremiah B.
PVT (Join to see) - I think you're mixing an enormous number of issues together. You kill radicals actually engaged in terrorism. You engage the culture, governments and economies around them to slow their supply of new recruits. You maintain a military able to defend against and destroy them. None of these are mutually exclusive and none of them have to be done first.
As for military spending vs. Foreign aid -
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/300000-an-hour-the-cost-of-fighting-isis/382649/
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/blog/2014/08/12/penny-dollar-us-foreign-aid-about-one-percent-spending/
The US spends around $48b a year in foreign aid of all sorts - including money for allies like Israel and Jordan. If you remove non-Islamic nations that aren't hotbeds of extremism and Israel, you're down to $21.5B. We've spent $2.7B in just the air war over Iraq/Syria. The budget FY2014 for Afghanistan was $79.5B. So $21.5B vs $82.2B. Sorry, 4 months, not 2, and neither conflict are going to get any cheaper.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on the value of climate change investments.
As for military spending vs. Foreign aid -
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/300000-an-hour-the-cost-of-fighting-isis/382649/
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/blog/2014/08/12/penny-dollar-us-foreign-aid-about-one-percent-spending/
The US spends around $48b a year in foreign aid of all sorts - including money for allies like Israel and Jordan. If you remove non-Islamic nations that aren't hotbeds of extremism and Israel, you're down to $21.5B. We've spent $2.7B in just the air war over Iraq/Syria. The budget FY2014 for Afghanistan was $79.5B. So $21.5B vs $82.2B. Sorry, 4 months, not 2, and neither conflict are going to get any cheaper.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on the value of climate change investments.
$300,000 an Hour: The Cost of Fighting ISIS
What price will the U.S. ultimately pay to neutralize the Islamic State?
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PVT (Join to see)
SGT Jeremiah B. Well and good. Getting back to the original thread topic I think it's pretty obvious to even a casual observer that isis and jihad are primarily borne more of theology and ideology rather than social circumstances. Perhaps a lack of air-conditioning or good jobs *could* be minor contributors, but at its core this is a religious movement. These officials sound silly as heck publicly claiming that these other concerns are the main causes of isis and jihad waging. And I'm arriving at that conclusion by listening to what they're saying. They don't acknowledge that it's a religious movement, but claim rather that it's due to a .8 degree increase in global temperatures over the last century or unemployment. Psht!
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SGT Jeremiah B.
PVT (Join to see) - I agree it's wrong to overly attribute it to either of those factors, but we've been studying extremism for a long time. Everything is interconnected and if you try to latch on to one cause - whether it be poverty, climate change or religion - you're going to be wrong. The causes are multi-prong and so must be the solutions.
Hell, religious fervor in general is rarely a simple matter of belief. We have clear ideas on what God has promised and how that relates to the problems we see today. That's why the West has such a hard time being very religious - wealth and a relative lack of corruption simply make the idea of engaging in violence to force change unappealing.
Hell, religious fervor in general is rarely a simple matter of belief. We have clear ideas on what God has promised and how that relates to the problems we see today. That's why the West has such a hard time being very religious - wealth and a relative lack of corruption simply make the idea of engaging in violence to force change unappealing.
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LTC Stephen Conway
Many of these countries that recruit ISIS are third or fourth world. I know we have ISIS followers in the USA, UK, Frande and elsewhere that are 1st world. Many are druggie converts trying to show their worth, many others born Muslim are changed by Imams at the mosque or madrassas paid for with ideology and funding from Saudi Arabia all over the world but I know for decades Pakistan and other Muslum countries got the help from Sunni Saudi Arabia...you wonder why whabism has been strong for the last 125 or so years?It started in the late 19th century and got twisted recently and it is still funded by the family of Saud.
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I say there are probably a million different things that you can point to and say that is why the ISIS started. Global warning, economy, the invasion into Iraq in 2003, or just the fact that the Middle East has always been at war with someone over the past 2000 years.
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Global Warmng, Climate Change (AGW) have absolutely no bearing and the State Dept. does anything they want, with no proof to these claims. SGT Ben Keen een
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