Posted on Nov 12, 2015
Has anyone ever obtained a Military Assault Weapons Permit in California?
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Team,
So i have recieved PCS orders to Camp Pendelton, CA. Like any good officer the first thing i did was research laws on safely tranporting my Privately Owned Weapons to my new duty station. To my surprise, there is no longer a achievable solution to military members legally posessing their assault weapons when stationed in CA. Previously you could apply for a Military Assault Weapons Permit that just required the Application, 19$ fee, Military ID and PCS Orders. However, now they have added a new requirement in order to obtain a Military Assault Weapons Permit that cannot be fullfilled, that requirement being; "Official letter signed by the applicant's Base Commander, establishing that a bona fide necessity exists for use of personal assault weapons in sanctioned military activities. The letter must include a current telephone number for the Base Commander's office."
As everyone knows you cant use POW's in the performance of offical military activites.
my questions is who else has been in this situation recently and are any of you stationed at Camp Pendleton at the moment and obtained this "official letter"?
So i have recieved PCS orders to Camp Pendelton, CA. Like any good officer the first thing i did was research laws on safely tranporting my Privately Owned Weapons to my new duty station. To my surprise, there is no longer a achievable solution to military members legally posessing their assault weapons when stationed in CA. Previously you could apply for a Military Assault Weapons Permit that just required the Application, 19$ fee, Military ID and PCS Orders. However, now they have added a new requirement in order to obtain a Military Assault Weapons Permit that cannot be fullfilled, that requirement being; "Official letter signed by the applicant's Base Commander, establishing that a bona fide necessity exists for use of personal assault weapons in sanctioned military activities. The letter must include a current telephone number for the Base Commander's office."
As everyone knows you cant use POW's in the performance of offical military activites.
my questions is who else has been in this situation recently and are any of you stationed at Camp Pendleton at the moment and obtained this "official letter"?
PCS
Camp Pendleton
State of California
Firearms and Guns
Posted 10 y ago
Responses: 9
If you replace your AR-15 magazine release with a "bullet button" then it's no longer an "assault weapon" in California... at least for now. Just don't insert a magazine into it of over 10 rounds capacity, as that becomes illegal.
I suggest you learn more about the "bullet button" for yourself. There are many places that sell it. It basically converts your magazine release to require a tool or a bullet to press, which makes your rifle no longer a detachable magazine rifle, which makes it no longer subject to assault weapon laws (just don't have a magazine over 10 rounds either way!).
http://bulletbutton.com/
I suggest you learn more about the "bullet button" for yourself. There are many places that sell it. It basically converts your magazine release to require a tool or a bullet to press, which makes your rifle no longer a detachable magazine rifle, which makes it no longer subject to assault weapon laws (just don't have a magazine over 10 rounds either way!).
http://bulletbutton.com/
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LTC Yinon Weiss
1LT (Join to see) - I'm not a lawyer on these things, but I would assume the overall rifle length is measure in collapsed mode (better to be on the safe side). You should therefore either modify the stock to remain extended (lots of places on the internet will do this as a "CA Compliance" modification), or replace it with a fixed length stock.
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roger and spoke to the PMO, they stated bullet button would suffice, however, i will need to obtain the kit to fix the stock on the SCAR and im good to go
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PO1 John Miller
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LT, LTC Yinon Weiss is correct. I actually bought my AR-15 style rifle (CMMG M4 to be precise) in California. It still has the "bullet button" affixed to it in place of the quick-release magazine button. It does have an adjustable (though not "folding") stock and is (or was at the time) 100% legal in California. I did buy it about 5 years ago so it may no longer be exactly legal, but it is a good example of what is/is not legal.
LT, LTC Yinon Weiss is correct. I actually bought my AR-15 style rifle (CMMG M4 to be precise) in California. It still has the "bullet button" affixed to it in place of the quick-release magazine button. It does have an adjustable (though not "folding") stock and is (or was at the time) 100% legal in California. I did buy it about 5 years ago so it may no longer be exactly legal, but it is a good example of what is/is not legal.
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CMSgt James Nolan
1LT (Join to see) Welcome to CA! They know better than you how to keep you safe LOL. Put it this way, there is not enough money to keep me living in CA past retirement. Beautiful state, beautiful weather. Stops right there. Liberal on Crime, Stupid Cost of Living, Ridiculous Taxes, Ignorant Traffic, WAAAAAAY Liberal politics.
And, just so you know, bad guys-they do not use Bullet Bolts....
And, just so you know, bad guys-they do not use Bullet Bolts....
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I would look for a safe place to store them out of state for the duration if I were you. The liberal/progressives on the left coast are not known for reasonableness.
http://smartgunlaws.org/assault-weapons-in-california/
http://smartgunlaws.org/assault-weapons-in-california/
See our Assault Weapons policy summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue. With limited exceptions, California prohibits anyone from possessing an
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I understand that you may not have a choice but personally hell will freeze over at least six months before I move to the Land of Fruits and Nuts.
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If you need to sell your firearms fast and cheap, I may be able to accommodate that lol
Seriously though, I would do everything possible to change your orders to almost anywhere else
Seriously though, I would do everything possible to change your orders to almost anywhere else
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I don't know if you have any hand guns, but if you do, 2 things to be aware of:
Get rid of any magazines you may have that have a capacity of over 10 rounds.
Make sure your guns aren't on the "banned" list. I suggest Googling the list as it changes constantly. Search for California DOJ approved gun list or banned gun list.
I don't know if you have any hand guns, but if you do, 2 things to be aware of:
Get rid of any magazines you may have that have a capacity of over 10 rounds.
Make sure your guns aren't on the "banned" list. I suggest Googling the list as it changes constantly. Search for California DOJ approved gun list or banned gun list.
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I have had several friends look into this and told me it is impossible in California now. They all ended up either getting rid of their weapons or leaving them with family in other states.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
That's too bad. They got rid of their weapons under bad information. See my response at the top of the thread.
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The solution that I had considered (at the time I was pending orders to DLI, which have been rescinded) was to state that I was training for the Camp Perry National Match for my brigade's team, and that a standard-issue M4/M16 rifle did not meet competition specifications, which would necessitate the use of a privately-owned weapon. I never did get the chance to test this out, though.
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Wow ,thats a sticky situation, But I think if you have your commander of your attached unit ship your weapons threw the proper channels to the base into the unit vault you could store them their. The base commander gereral today may be able to over ride state power if the governor will sign off. Keep digging and don.t give up this is not all about you anymore its about the safety of all our soldiers on and off duty.
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