Posted on Mar 23, 2016
Has civilian dress attire changed?
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I seldom wear a suit or coat and tie. When I do, there is always a US Flag pin on my lapel. At a wedding last weekend, there were ? 30 men w/ suits. There were at least 4 Vets amongst the party, one was a service academy graduate and retiree. The only one w/ Flag lapel pin was myself.
Am I out of touch? WTF?
If you check the photos of my car, someone recently tried to remove one of the decals! They were foiled, I always slice decals w/a razor blade! CPT Aaron Kletzing LTC Yinon Weiss
Am I out of touch? WTF?
If you check the photos of my car, someone recently tried to remove one of the decals! They were foiled, I always slice decals w/a razor blade! CPT Aaron Kletzing LTC Yinon Weiss
Posted 10 y ago
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I still wear suits or at least sports coats with slacks and dress shirt almost all of the time. I don't normally wear a US Flag on the lapel but I do wear a small Marine Corps emblem. Most civilians don't know what it is. Those that served generally do and I start some great conversations with Marines and even those from other services.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
Cpl Jeff N. There are some ‘cool’ EGAs attached to US Flag lapel pins. If you pm an snail mail add’y to me, I will send you one. Best, Chuck
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I don't think you're out of touch, just different preferences.
I usually don't wear a lapel pin at all, and my tie bars/chains are rather subdued or plain.
As for the vandals.... no words.
I usually don't wear a lapel pin at all, and my tie bars/chains are rather subdued or plain.
As for the vandals.... no words.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS When I first met COL Mitch Paige, CMH, USMCR (retired), in church he was wearing a EGA tie bar that elected a comment from me.
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CSM Hayden, thats disturbing that someone tried to vandalize your car.
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I was in the corporate world 9/11. Overnight wearing a flag pin became a required accessory on a suit lapel. Today said accessory is a rare sight. I still wear mine and always will. BTW, I am a lifelong Democrat!
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Someone tries to REMOVE ANYTHING of mine I slise them with the razor blade.
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My first job out of the military, I was blessed to have a good mentor that was prior service. He used to wear his highest medal as a lapel pin (Bronze Star). He did it because veterans would understand and it was a way to show his prior service without being over the top. Ever since then I always wore a Flag Pin, a Medal Lapel Pin, my Aviation Wings Lapel Pin, or some other kind of Military Pin. I don't think it has to be a flag specifically. Every American should wear a flag, we get the choice to wear something else since we were the less than 1% to actually serve.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
SPC Gabriel Botero Jr., MSW, LCSW Thank you for your service and the affirmation.
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SPC Gabriel Botero Jr., MSW, LCSW
CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 - Thank you for your service and for remaining patriotic! I know very few people that own a flag pin let alone wear one!
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I see some wearing american flag lapel pins every now and then. It depends on the event and who the person is. I usually see it mostly with elected officials. For me, I wear my American Legion lapel pin when I wear a suite. It shows that I served and also doesn't generate any hate for the nation. I have found that there are a lot of people who are angry at the government and associate the flag with politicians. I am also the type of person who is private and keep things that have significant value or meaning to me private.
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CSM Hayden-I'm not personally aware (which may be a problem in and of itself) of any regulation requiring serving active or reserve personnel to wear the US flag pin when in civilian attire, though I know it was something of a convention-and a good one at that!
I don't wear one for several reasons-First, I'm hesitant to wear "insignia" of any sort as a civilian; I've learned that I'm "one of them" now, and my actions speak louder than my "symbols". Second, there are subtler, more personal "lapel pins" I do wear on occasion to signify my service-the enamel MSM or NCM, my honorable discharge pin, or a small replica of the Maltese Cross of the Knights of St. Lazarus. Finally...when I see someone of "my age" wearing a US flag lapel pin, I tend to assume they are either a member of the elected government, or agent thereof.
I don't wear one for several reasons-First, I'm hesitant to wear "insignia" of any sort as a civilian; I've learned that I'm "one of them" now, and my actions speak louder than my "symbols". Second, there are subtler, more personal "lapel pins" I do wear on occasion to signify my service-the enamel MSM or NCM, my honorable discharge pin, or a small replica of the Maltese Cross of the Knights of St. Lazarus. Finally...when I see someone of "my age" wearing a US flag lapel pin, I tend to assume they are either a member of the elected government, or agent thereof.
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Normally if I wear a tie, I use a brass rank pin for a tie tack.
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