Has the time come to abolish the Electoral College???

The founding fathers only wanted white people voting so your point is mite

They discussed lots of things, but made it possible to correct any changes by way of the amendment process, which as we all know fixed a number of issues not originally care for. Yes, they were prescient.

You might actually look up words before you use them, SSG. Did you mean to write my point is moot?

The question invited reasonable debate and so many of the replies as to how and why the electoral college was designed and operates have provided a valuable lesson in civics or problems of democracy. If only one person on this site has learned something about the electoral college because of the question, then it has been worth it. I really enjoyed reading the comments. Perhaps some of you could run for public office and replace some of the dolts who are running our country.

This map could be labeled "blue areas depict areas of high crime, rampant unemployment, drug problems, illiteracy, attacks on police and other crimes"

LTC Joseph Gross - Yes just like all the citys that are protesting now, I was thinking the same thing. When will everyone understand that a certain party likes and keeps those areas suppressed, and in need for votes, this is why we have the collage...

CPO (Join to see) - Each party likes to make more of whatever its base is. If the GOP's base is the rich, they will want to make more rich people.

What's the Democrat power base again?

LTC Joseph Gross - You forgot high taxes and government dependency.

You are talking primarily about taxes that are controlled and levied by your individual state,counties and cities not the federal government. The electoral votes have no impact on those. Your citing of what happens in NY on the state level identifies and supports the need for the electoral vote system One of the small states with single digit electoral votes could make the difference in getting a conservative or a liberal.

The electoral system gives fairness to all the states. Smaller states (population wise) does not lose its voice to large population centers. That same scenario needs to be applied to individual states such as New York and New Jersey and likely more with large cities. Large percentages of the tax paying public live in rural areas. Their votes are being overruled by large populations of indigents that reside in innercities. When does it make sense for the recipient to tell the 'giver' who should be the president, how much taxes to pay or anything else? It's time to look at fairness in our voting system.

It does make one wonder

When I went to High School we took a single quarter of Civics that covered the Government and I don't recall covering the E.C. That being said I have since educated myself on the matter and wrote this topic to spark a debate. It seems though some people would just prefer to belittle me instead. In my question I even point out that the system allows for smaller states to have "more power" and yes I realize there are States in the United States. Why is it that if someone post's a comment meant to stimulate a conversation people feel the need to treat them as if they are stupid? This is why I usually don't post topics, just comments, because rather than address the question they would prefer to make someone else look stupid.

PFC Aaron Knapp , I haven't tried to belittle you. I expressed concern that you weren't taught basic knowledge about how our government is elected. That isn't your fault, it's ours because we allowed the public school systems to be "dumbed down". While I was caring for my niece I discovered that it's gotten so bad that teachers were sending home study sheets that matched the tests.

I understand..and I'm about to graduate with my AA in liberal Arrs and move on to my Masters Degree...and I have made sure to learn any and all information I may not have known.

Jerry Genesio:hahahahaha typical. you block my reply. Once again, you don't answer the questions put to you about your party and hillary's except to say "she ran a bad campaign" Sorry Jerry my boy, you're the problem with the democratic party. One only has to listen/read your comments and know

Sgt., we are not a democracy. We are Constitutional Republic. This would take away viable representation from the small states. I don't want four or five big cities electing a President that is representative of the views of a few. Again, please understand these words, Constitutional Republic.

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I see that demagogues can be unrelenting in their fanaticism. Even after a break to deal with some health issues, I find the same claptrap being spewed by those who can’t stomach the Electoral College and the role it has played and continues playing in keeping our Constitutional Republic stable.
Let’s review a bit here so we don’t lose track of the history behind this series of screeds from someone who “sees no point in arguing” with those who don’t swallow his ridiculous line of thought (as if spewing cheap propaganda could be considered “arguing”).
This particular entry ends with the ridiculous and fabricated statement that “everyone’s vote should count”. Aww! As if we couldn’t see through the lie. The use of propaganda phrases which disguise the truth is common among those who render obeisance to the Party of the Jackass… and to its propaganda.
If one looks back at the previous posts from Jerry, here, one finds that BASED ON HIS OWN WORDS, what we have here is just another political apparatchik upset with the results of the 2016 election. He practically admitted this before, while referring to the concept of “tyranny” (talk about confused people!). And just like his infantile cohorts elsewhere, all he’s doing here is the written equivalent of the street riots which were coordinated and paid for by the DNC or other Soros dominated organizations. That’s important to know, so no one gets the impression that they are actually arguing with anyone who is serious or has a legitimate point to make.
In order to understand where the apparatchik is coming from let’s look at his own words all over again and see what we get:
“For heaven’s sake, ©bama saved our economy.” – This obvious lie is followed by a whine to the effect that we should look at the statistics. So let’s do better than that. Let’s look at serious research (as opposed to the words of party of the jackass charlatans). And for our numbers, we’ll go to the Federal Bank of St. Louis and an interesting bit of research they published titled “Why Does Economic Growth Keep Slowing Down?” In that report they document the decline in US economic growth per capita. And instead of the ridiculous propaganda of “©bama saved…”, what you find is that in 2016, real per capita GDP growth in the US fell to its lowest rate outside of an officially declared recession since World War II. That rate was 0.5%. And that was just the “culmination” of ©bama’s idiotic “economic” policies and “achievements”. And notice that I am not even mentioning the mountain of debilitating debt that "the big ©" dumped on the nation.
This, of course, is a separate issue from the habitual and serial falsification of employment numbers during the whole ©bama term in order to create a political smokescreen for the elections. A pattern clearly noted after the ©bama-Romney debate, in which Romney quoted unemployment data which was quickly “adjusted” after the debate, gives you an idea of what was going on. BLS numbers were being guided and created by political hacks beholden to the Jackass. Serious investigators have demonstrated that “adjustments” and “revisions” to just the BLS birth-death model alone, adds 200,000 fake jobs a month. Subtract that from the published “jobs” figures and see what you get. And from what you DO get, then also subtract the imaginary jobs created by imaginary business start-ups, which is another fake job “generator”. So the BLS and their political hacks have been “adding” new “jobs” to the statistics… “jobs” generated by “new businesses”. But all the while, you find that Bloomberg’s US Start-Ups barometer shows that US start-ups were DOWN by 20.25% in the past year – a VERY steep drop… one of the steepest on record.
So when you see Jerry claim that “For heaven’s sake, ©bama saved our economy” all you have is one political hack repeating what other political hacks have been braying. His big mistake, of course, was asking people to look at the statistics. Perhaps, as a blind fanatic, he believed his own propaganda. But this is par for the course for a party symbolized by a jackass.
And just like any political hack representing the “jackass party”, the “we are superior” argument (which he had raised previously) keeps coming back. This theory that “the people in urban centers are better educated” can only come from simpletons disconnected from the realities of urban America. It is simple for the followers of the Jackass (which is the most accurate way of describing jackass party adepts) to forget that CHARACTER does not come from a piece of paper obtained from a 2nd or 3rd rate “educational” institution. Because it’s urban Jackass-following punks in New York and San Francisco that are braying in the streets as they riot, maim others, and destroy private property… in coordinated and paid-for “demonstrations”. Is THIS the example he offers of their “superiority”, as implied by his “better education” comment?
This 2016 election was very interesting. It brought out all the frustrated, power-hungry opportunists who were OH SO SURE that they were going win and get their way that they were gloating about it weeks before the election. You see, they felt that they are “so much smarter” than “those back-country hicks”, that they KNEW that “their kind” would be “selected” so they could tell everybody else what to do and how to live their lives. And some of them have even said that they have : “…a much better understanding of who the other half of the American population really are”. Check out the implied disdain in “other half”.
And, of course, there are the stories they make up to “explain” complex issues. To the Jackass followers, the Electoral College had nothing to do with “balancing out” the interests of very diverse states in a diverse nation that would keep expanding. “OOH! OOH! It was all about slaves! It was all about slaves! OOH! OOH!” they say, ignoring the fact that a statement like that simply magnifies their gross ignorance, if not their utter lack of intellectual capacity.
It is clear that Jerry has made up his mind. He threw in his lot with the authoritarian punks who follow the Jackass and riot in the streets for pay. There is a very interesting saying in Spanish: “tell me who you walk with, and I’ll tell you who you are”. I think it says it all. So, since HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE CONFUSED BY FACTS, my recommendation is to not to pay too much attention to posts with lack of real content. Remember, Jackass followers are over-impressed with their own importance and superiority, even while espousing clearly stupid ideas.
Now, the Jackass followers had their candidate. In addition to the willful disregard for the careful handling of classified information, to the point of compromising Top Secret/SI information, this was a candidate that never held a real job in her life… yet managed to accumulate a net worth of over $30 MILLION. Interesting, huh? Wonder how she pulled THAT off! And with her “husband” (another crook), ran a “charitable foundation” which, in addition to functioning as an unregistered PAC and paying for her daughter’s wedding and other “charitable” activities, was receiving “donations” (bribes) from other countries in exchange for “little favors” here and there (like authorizing the sale of 25% of US uranium) that were made possible through the use of “influences of office” (like, for example, Secretary of State). So this piece of filth is what they wanted to declare fuhrer.

Some might think that I am too harsh in my criticism of the Jackass followers. But I much prefer my clear harshness to the hypocrisy present in the disguised superiority complex coupled with specious and fictitious arguments of the Jackass followers. It creeps through their words very often, because it’s hard for them to hide it. But the fact that it’s there is clear evidence that their idiotic positions are not worthy of respect. That’s why I recommend they be ignored for what they are: the whinings of spoiled brats who are simply upset that they didn’t get their way. They have their "hissy fits" based on lies and conjecture and they should be flicked off like you would flick specs of lint off a shirt.

Sgt Jerry Genesio - Wow I think he hit all of the talking points. Do you even know what a fascist is? Banning 8% of a group of people is not an entire religious group you are missing the other 92%