Posted on Aug 30, 2015
Has the United Nations outlived its usefulness in World Order or does it need to be reorganized?
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Has the United Nations outlived its usefulness in World Order or does it need to be reorganized?
The United Nations (UN) is an intergovernmental organization to promote international co-operation. A replacement for the ineffective League of Nations, the organization was established on 24 October 1945 following the Second World War to prevent another such conflict. At its founding, the UN had 51 member states; there are now 193. The headquarters of the United Nations is in Manhattan, New York City, and experiences extraterritoriality.
Do we give the institution more power or do we dismantle it?
Do we come up with a new World Organization that brings the countries together for world issues and what does that look like?
Do we go back to the days before the United Nations and the League of Nations in 1920 prior to WW1 and let each country work out their own issues, create its own treaties and alliances, and solve its own problems (and if another country comes to their aid so be it)?
CAPT Michael MoranSGT (Join to see)Dennis AubuchonCH (CPT) James L. Machado WorkmanSSG Alan PelletierMSgt Rich MedinaSSG David AndrewsJeremiah McMillanSGT Mia MasonSFC James William Bolt [ 40 Yards ]]Letise DennisPV2 J MCPO Nate S.PO2 David KeenerCMSgt William ReedPO3 Grant Skiles
The United Nations (UN) is an intergovernmental organization to promote international co-operation. A replacement for the ineffective League of Nations, the organization was established on 24 October 1945 following the Second World War to prevent another such conflict. At its founding, the UN had 51 member states; there are now 193. The headquarters of the United Nations is in Manhattan, New York City, and experiences extraterritoriality.
Do we give the institution more power or do we dismantle it?
Do we come up with a new World Organization that brings the countries together for world issues and what does that look like?
Do we go back to the days before the United Nations and the League of Nations in 1920 prior to WW1 and let each country work out their own issues, create its own treaties and alliances, and solve its own problems (and if another country comes to their aid so be it)?
CAPT Michael MoranSGT (Join to see)Dennis AubuchonCH (CPT) James L. Machado WorkmanSSG Alan PelletierMSgt Rich MedinaSSG David AndrewsJeremiah McMillanSGT Mia MasonSFC James William Bolt [ 40 Yards ]]Letise DennisPV2 J MCPO Nate S.PO2 David KeenerCMSgt William ReedPO3 Grant Skiles
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A political organization that has no real power except that which the United States gives it.
If we would like our rights to be trampled on, we should go right ahead and give it more power.
It all depends on what we want. The organization was created to prevent war... Has it? Really? Nope.
My feelings about it are more so on the scale of a large forum to discuss issues that effect us all. I feel that is a good thing.
But nothing "passed" by the UN is binding in the United States without the ratification of the Senate, so it's power is completely neutralized.
If we would like our rights to be trampled on, we should go right ahead and give it more power.
It all depends on what we want. The organization was created to prevent war... Has it? Really? Nope.
My feelings about it are more so on the scale of a large forum to discuss issues that effect us all. I feel that is a good thing.
But nothing "passed" by the UN is binding in the United States without the ratification of the Senate, so it's power is completely neutralized.
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What if the US just stop their portion of funding of the UN? I believe it would collapse as most of the UN is funded by the US.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
MSgt Jamie Lyons I totally agree. We could also close their buildings in the U.S. and make them go else where.
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Give the UN 30 days notice to vacate and go back home, day 30 move three empty barges, largest we have to the east river, load up any remaining holdouts along with their crap. Have the entire fleet of the the NYC traffic agent tow trucks remove all diplomatic plated vehicles to the crush yard occupants extra credit. Hire the best/fastest demo company available and drop all structures into rubble and remove, erase all evidence that the UN was there and build new homes/businesses etc using the yearly budget we would have paid for the UN sitting on their ass in the US Shopping mall.
Move all the delegates to Somalia the new UN HQ by barge or cheapest air transport, hell put parachutes on them and do a mass tac no red light. Set up a dozen old Vietnam War era GP mediums and paint UN on them and then leave. Let them sit there as they are killed and robbed by the folks they said they are their to help. The UN and the League of Nations were and are monumental wastes of resources, the truly sad thing is we are supplying money to them to work against this nation. I WANT THEM GONE YESTERDAY.
Move all the delegates to Somalia the new UN HQ by barge or cheapest air transport, hell put parachutes on them and do a mass tac no red light. Set up a dozen old Vietnam War era GP mediums and paint UN on them and then leave. Let them sit there as they are killed and robbed by the folks they said they are their to help. The UN and the League of Nations were and are monumental wastes of resources, the truly sad thing is we are supplying money to them to work against this nation. I WANT THEM GONE YESTERDAY.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs IMO it's usefulness is gone. We give most of the money to run the damn place. I suggest dropping, not stopping, what we give and make the rest of the countries start coughing up some more money.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SGM Steve Wettstein based on other comments and what I've learned in this discussion I would have to agree with you!
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Unsure as to what we should do, but I do feel that we DO NOT go back to the days before the United Nations and the League of Nations. Deciding to let each country work out their own issues, create its own treaties and alliances, and solve its own problems, even if this were done gradually, would make it much easier for our and their adversaries to "do bad things"; and for the US to now have to try to recover at a later date (which, history has shown, we would have to act at some point) would be darned near impossible without loss of life, as we would have to do a lot of "rescuing". Disbanding would have the same effect. I don't believe we need to lose the ground already covered, but I do believe some re-organization is in order, I'm just not knowledgeable enough to make recommendations as to what that reorganization should entail and to what extent... I wish I could contribute more to this as I do find it interesting, but recommending action for the intertwined reaction for each action is far too much for this feeble brain.
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The UN is a club for the diplomatic corps to engage in self grandizment while ignoring the fact that it is outlived its usefulness. It accomplishs nothing while wasting Billions.
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The UN what a disgrace and waste of space. How many human rights violators are on the human rights council? How much money do we dump in and support them with only to have them be Anti America. I have friends with personal experience with the UN None have anything positive to say. Disband them and kick them out of the US. ... Ohh and make them pay their fines first.
Here is how they treat their own people. (They made this in to a movie too)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jadotville
Here is how they treat their own people. (They made this in to a movie too)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jadotville
Siege of Jadotville - Wikipedia
The Siege of Jadotville took place in September 1961, during the United Nations intervention in the Katanga conflict in Congo-LĂ©opoldville, in Central Africa. "A" Company, 35th Battalion (UN service) of the Irish Army ONUC contingent was attacked by Katanga Gendarmerie troops loyal to the Katangese Prime Minister Moise Tshombe. The lightly armed Irish soldiers, besieged in Jadotville (modern Likasi), resisted Katangese assaults for six days as...
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No more power to the UN without major changes. Their "Human Rights" committee makes a mockery of human rights for example. The US pays 20-25% of the UN bills. We either get that much control or we pay substantially less. The UN hasn't been completely ineffectual. I don't want it to become more competent though because I think they'll use the power to do great harm to freedom.
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