Posted on Nov 23, 2014
SPC Daniel Edwards
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So I saw my first military poser today at Wal-Mart of all places. Had Army ACUs, popped collar, what looked like a white turtleneck and Doc Marten's boots, patrol cap on indoors, no name tapes anywhere, Marine Corps Globe-and-Anchor on his pc, no unit patches and an American flag patch with no stars. I asked him what unit he was in, he responded with being an E-7 petty officer in the Navy.

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Sgt Nick Marshall
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A huge controversy in Canada over something very similar, a man wearing military uniform in Ottawa during Remembrance Celebrations who was never in the military, the govt will probably be prosecuting.
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PO2 Timothy Klym
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MSG (Join to see) Canada does not have a NG. The militia (reserve force) acts in this capacity.
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PO2 Timothy Klym - my bad I thought you were talking usa
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PO2 Timothy Klym
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MSG (Join to see) - No problem. Things can get jumbled in threads.
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TSgt Charles Turnipseed
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My first comment, so much gratitude and appreciation to everyone who has served our nation in any capacity. I also wore various garb over the years with no intention of making any claim of being in the military. I am more annoyed with LEOs who wear our uniforms than with 90 percent of the civilians who are usually wearing parts of uniforms simply because they like it or it serves a utilitarian purpose. Yes, it does infuriate me to see a poser seeking praise for something they didn't do; but, quite often, many of those people actually suffer some sort of mental defect. Just my humble $0.02, your mileage may vary. Again, my appreciation to all of my fellow service members.
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PO2 David Schauer
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Was he mentally challenged? Was he trying to "gain" anything with his costume?
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SPC Matthew Rouse
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was it Halloween?
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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good question had a civilian working at my job wearing a black barrette with the civil affairs patch, this person was challenged so I asked quite nicely did you serve, he said no it was his fathers who was serving in Afghanistan, he wore it in support of his father, case closed, nothing more needed to be said, I thanked him for his support and wished his father a safe return
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Hank Fackovec
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While there are POSs that are "calculated " posers, I have run into several who where not all there.
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SSgt Nicholas Merchant
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My view on this issue differs from many of brothers and sisters I'm sure, but here it is. There are many out there who idolize our military members, some wanted to serve but couldn't, some hsve other mental issues and can't distinguish between what they wish they could do and what they really have done. Most of us can tell the difference immediately as can most civilians. For me the guys that actually try to get things for free or get recognition for false claims are the ones that anger me, but there again most businesses are wise to this and require things like a DD214, military ID, or VA ID, some require leave papers, so I could care less if someones wearing fstigues wrong to show support look at it as a form of admiration. For those of us who survived combat the hardest thing to do is to listen to someone talk about combat who clearly never saw it. I personally get more pissed at people who were in the service who lie about their jobs and what they did.
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SP5 Practical/Vocational Nursing
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I couldn't agree more.
When i was kid, i wore bdu jackets and the such, because veterans were my heroes (of course, that was awhile ago...before most US vets actually wore camo...) so, i get it. Now, as a combat seasoned vet, i am at times humbled that some of these younger guys want to emulate me. Yeah, the ones that try to show themselves as something that others died being can hurt/anger/frustrate...but many are just hollow inside. I have sympathy for
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CW4 Tim Claus
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I grew up around WWII vets, bomber crews, infantry, armor and merchant mariners that survived sinkings, their legacy was awe inspiring and set an example I have tried to live up to.
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PO2 John Journigan
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To all of the candy ass pieces of crap that is making statements like "anybody can buy them and wear what they want, why is everyone getting so upset"...... Well, they can kiss this disabled veterans ass..... For myself and all of my military brothers and sisters, regardless of the branch of service, we walked the walk, took the oath and earned the right to wear that uniform..... So for some POS to put on a store bought uniform and pretend to be someone special, yes that is offensive.... Not butt hurt as some may claim, just pissed off and mad as hell about fake cowereds that didn't have the intestinal fortitude to raise their hand and take the oath.......
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CPL Kasey Webb
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I've personally experienced this myself. I've also been called a poser because I do not "look" like I was in the military. I'm a 25 yr old female who dyes her hair crazy colors. Does not mean I didn't spend 3 yrs of my life serving it simply means that there are those to ignorant to understand the depth of that
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SN Shawn Wilson
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I agree but at least their are no buckets of steam to retrieve. for my steam jacketed kettle
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SFC William "Bill" Moore
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I have ran in to one, that I know of. I looked him square in the face and told him he was a lying idiot.
I Retired after 20 years, from the Army, and wear military clothing on a regular basis, as it is cheap, comfortable and fits my lifestyle, so I don't get bent about seeing military clothing being worn. I particularly like the combat shirts as they go well with my Carhart vest.
I was approached by the individual mentioned above, while I was wearing a pair of ACU trousers and a British combat shirt, while I was at the local Southern States feed store. Now mind you, everyone working in the store knows me and why I disappeared for over 20 years, but this guy was someone I had never met. So while I was waiting to check out, he announces that we must have been in the same unit because he remembers the uniform. I look at the check out clerk and smile. "Oh really? What unit was that?" His response was, "You should know, you're in the uniform, unless you're a fake! The 1st Marine Ranger BN of course!" I winked at the clerk and asked if he was with them when they went to Columbia or when they were deployed to Slobovia? Of course he said he was there for both! Me - "Really? What Cohort?" Him - "Oh, that was 2/6 Recon." Me - "What was your job?" Him - "I was a Sniper Bomb Tech!" Him - "What was your job?" Without missing a beat I said "Inflight Missile Mechanic" at that point, the clerk lost it! I finally finished paying, with about 15 folks listening to the exchange, I turned to him and came clean. "I am retired from the Army, I have a few MOS's one being EOD." "The uniform you see is a combination of US Army ACU pants and a Desert British combat shirt. To my knowledge, we haven't been at war with Columbia or Slobovia? 1st Marine Ranger BN, 2/6 Recon? Really?" His only Question was "What's EOD?" Again, the clerk lost it (he is a Veteran) and I just looked at the fool and said, " You're a lying Idiot." And walked out to the sound of laughter and chuckles.
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MSgt Jeff Vandervort
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Had a contract rep in Afghanistan at Camp Leatherneck tell a room full of Marines that he was in and got out after 3 years. His MOS was door-gunner. Since none of us ever heard of that as an MOS we had to ask, on what? Oh, you know, 46s, 53s, Cobras.... Cobras? Did they strap you to the skid? Everyone just returned to their desk and ignored him for the next few days he was there.
Can't tell you the number of Marines I've met who were recon at either some super secret base you've never heard of or they can't remember where. Met a few that graduated boot camp at some random Army base.
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SN Shawn Wilson
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you know I served in the Navy, some of the unit jargon you guys use I dumb founded by myself, the closes i can get is sub Ron , or supply division S-2, can do attitude, earn your iron-man which i have twice during my time served
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SGT Eliyahu Rooff
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I've spent some time in the veteran's group in the virtual reality simulation, Second Life. Everyone has an avatar there, and we can fit them with uniforms to match our real life ones. We always spend a bit of time vetting applicants to the group, questioning them to make sure they're really veterans. I've observed over the years that no poser ever claims to have been a cook, a clerk-typist, a motor pool mechanic or a medic. They're almost always Seals, Airborne Rangers, SF, Special Ops or some combination of the above. I remember one who insisted he'd been a Special Forces Seal Ranger in the Marine Corps. At that point, we let him spin his story for a while while laughing our asses off in a private chat window, then called him out on it and told him to take a flying leap.

We found that there were only a few questions we really needed to find out who was a real veteran. Everyone who's been in will know his basic active service date, where he went to basic training, and some details about the bases where he's been stationed, and once they start bitching about waiting in line for everything, we know he's for real. I also discovered that just about every former Marine will know the answer to, "Who was Daniel Daly, and why did he refuse a commission?"

In real life situations, the easiest way to figure who is real is to get them to talk about their stateside duty stations. No heroics, real or imaginary, just the tedium of everyday service. That's stuff no one can fake very well, and we've all been there to know what is real and what isn't.
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LCpl Jody Swinea
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Dan Dailey and Smedley Butler are both 2 time MOH recepients but to be honest idk why he refused a commission. Never heard that one?
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SGT Eliyahu Rooff
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LCpl Jody Swinea - He said he'd rather be an outstanding Sergeant than just another mediocre officer.
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SN Shawn Wilson
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LMAO I was just a cook or culinary specialist ( and or mess management specialist )
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Ain’t that the truth. There is just certain shit you don’t forget.
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Kristi Abshear Smith
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My son is a Navy veteran and this pisses me off when people try to act like they served! By the way THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE SERVED... blue star mom!
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SP5 Norman McGill
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Thanks for your comment Kristi and thanks to your son too. We need more Americans like the two of you.
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MSG Alberto Rodriguez
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I'm a bit late to the party, but here's my 2 cents anyway. Yes, I think it is disrespectful for someone who never served to wear a uniform in order to gain something from it. And yes, I believe we should confront stolen valor when we see it. At the same time, I also agree with some comments above that some folks may either be mentally ill, or just plain admire the military and as long as they make it clear that they are not trying to pass themselves as Soldier, then cool. I do however, have a big issue with how some Soldiers and veterans confront stolen valor. Being violent, yelling obscenities, etc. for the purpose of putting it on video and online, IMHO shows us all in a negative light, and is far from the professional, soldierly behavior we encourage and demand from our Soldiers. That type of behavior makes you just as wrong as the person you are trying to belittle .
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SP5 Norman McGill
SP5 Norman McGill
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Ya that's a sorry story SGT Griffin and it's not right that you should have been picked on like that. I always say that you have to be very careful before you accuse someone of stolen valor. It's not always black and white and easy to tell.
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SN Shawn Wilson
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well like myself i have a Navy sea service and a navy overseas service ribbon, according to up to date navy marine regs, you cannot be awarded both at the same time, nor wear them at the same time, but during my my tour on the U.S.S. Orion AS-18 1991 too 1993, I received both ribbons in my record, then received them again on the U.S.S. Simon lake from 1993 too 1995, though I have been out since 1995, I hate for someone to call me a fake for wearing both ribbons at the same time, just as I also have the N.U.C, & M.U.C. received both at the same time, and post humorously received the Armed forces ribbon 1996 (retroactive 1992)
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SP5 Norman McGill
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Post humorously. That's different. Ha!
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SN Shawn Wilson
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SP5 Norman McGill - well I guess i could have said retroactive, cause you would not find it in my service record, i was out by 1995. president Clinton created the armed forces ribbon in 1996.
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SGT Donald Heine
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So what. Civilians can wear articles of military clothing. The eagle globe and anchor is a slight problem. I let my own kids where my old bdu shirts. I took off my CIB, air assault wings and unit patches, and rank. Left the usarmy and name. I don't concern myself until I see qualification badges or combat patches.
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CW4 Tim Claus
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True, good policy for folks to follow. More important things to worry about, nothing some idiot with a screwed up uniform can do to take away someone's honor for serving their country.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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I live outside Ft Huachuca and I am on the base almost daily. You can't wear part of a uniform so wearing something would be more trouble than it is worth. I haven't seen any posers on base.
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SN Shawn Wilson
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I once I had to see the Old man I had gotten my Navy M.U.C. mixed up with the N.M.S. ribbon when i purchased the ribbon in the ships store, let me tell you the old man took a long hard look and told me to take that ribbon off right then and there, then said hand me his record to make sure the rest of my ribbons were correct. which they were, then he calmed down ( he did have a few choice words during this time) then asked politely if I had gotten my ribbons mixed up, because i was missing my Navy M.U.C. then he showed me what it look like from his own uniform, I replied yes sir I'm very sorry, that was first time ever seeing the old man.
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1SG Gary Bacon
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E7 petty officer...that's funny....sometimes I wonder if some of these folks are mentally ill. On another note, sometimes theRe are true vets, that wear older uniforms, and young troops assume they posers because they can't remember details ect. Personally, I ignore such things....I still remember when any kind of working uniform was forbidden to be worn out in public....to and from work only....jmo
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CW4 Tim Claus
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But they did stay at a Holiday Inn Express........
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SN Shawn Wilson
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well that rank would be called chief petty officer.
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