Posted on Jun 24, 2019
Hiding service from employer due to affirmative action?
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Hey, y'all. Ive got a problem. I recently applied at an international company for an armed security position here in the states. They set up an interview for tomorrow, and said to bring all my DD214s. The issue is, I never disclosed any of my previous affiliation with the military. It wouldn't be a problem since I was only ARNG, that's easy to hide. But I have 3 deployments, and 4 DD214s on my record. This company is an affirmative action employer, and aside from my hatred for my "service", I don't want to end up getting hired just because of a law that requires it based off my part time employment with the state, and fed government. They're going to do a thorough background check, so they would find out anyway, but at that point its up to them whether to hire me or not, instead of some law requiring it. It seems though they've already found out. Even though I answered no on all the vet and military questions.
How do I politely admit to them I am "prior service" (even though I was just NG), while at the same time declining to make that a part of my resume, and not come off as shady? Should I email them back today telling them so? I've never had a problem before because the employers just did a very basic check if any. I really want this job, but I only want it if I'm hired for being me not because of an 8 year mistake I made after high school.
Do I confess to it, or just keep hiding it?
Thanks.
How do I politely admit to them I am "prior service" (even though I was just NG), while at the same time declining to make that a part of my resume, and not come off as shady? Should I email them back today telling them so? I've never had a problem before because the employers just did a very basic check if any. I really want this job, but I only want it if I'm hired for being me not because of an 8 year mistake I made after high school.
Do I confess to it, or just keep hiding it?
Thanks.
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Not even sure where to begin with this. BLUF: You lied on your application, and now you're going to get caught, and you're trying to weasel out of it. Does that about sum it up? Lets be honest. This is NOT about your service. FYI, in a private-sector company, there is NOTHING that requires that they give you any preference whatsoever due to military service. The fact that you consider it a "mistake" but stayed in for 8 years, well, I don't know how to comperehend that. All of that aside, to get back to the real issue, you lied on the application. To be honest, alll other things aside, if I were hiring for an "armed security position", I would probably give you points for the military service. Not strictly for the "support the military" thing, but because in theory that means you know how to handle a weapon. On the other hand, once I found out you lied on your application, I would toss it in the trash, service or no, since "armed" means you have to be trusted, and lying on your application means you can't be. Suck it up, cupcake.
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You don't deserve help on this if you think serving your country in the Armed Forces was mistake.
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Must not want or need that job too bad, ...but you've been there before apparently. If you're not proud of your service, then you were doing it wrong... no one to blame but yourself. Honorable service to ones nation is an achievement to be proud of, even if one disagrees with the mission.
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Yea you pretty much wont get that job. You already lied on your job application. And I also am sure they are going to see your post on here if they are truly doing a background check.
And if you hated it so much why did you stay in for 8 years?
And if you hated it so much why did you stay in for 8 years?
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The military is a smaller world than you think. What you have written here has probably been or will be read by someone in the organization you’re attempting to gain employment with. You’re just not very bright, are you.
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There are many essays written in response to your original question, when in fact it boils down to you lied on an employment application for a security position. And now you want to take back what you said? Incredible! Your long winded explanation is called 'situational ethics'. "In this case, it wasn't really a lie, and even if it was, it was for a good reason". Good luck with that strategy.
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My guess is that you originally joined the NG for whatever it could help you with in life. Now, you want to deny that reliance in some kind of "holier-than-thou" crusade to promote yourself for just you. We all want to be considered for what we are worth on our own merits, but you must that a part of what/who you are has been built on your time in the NG, whether you appreciate that or not. It si certainly not a blight on you for having been in the NG, and if that makes a difference in getting hired for the job you want vice not getting hired, then your experience is doing for you what you likely originally sought. I have never used my BS degree in the field that it covers, but being able to fill a square on a job application certainly made my time in college worth every dollar. If you really are willing to turn your back on the NG that served your needs, even though you may not have liked being deployed, then be willing to accept the lesser of the jobs and careers you are trying to build for yourself. What this boils down to for me is really this, if you are going to turn your back on your experience and lie about it then you don't deserve the advantages it can give you. There are lots of dead and homeless who would gladly have your situation of using their experience to advance themselves in life. You've ticked me off!!
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Your posting makes me want to ask a bunch of questions. Why are you ashamed to have served your country in the U.S. Army? Did you have a Bad Conduct or Dishonorable Discharge from the U.S. Army? What is this so-called "International Company" with whom you are applying for work? Why would your honorable military service in the U.S. Army be a bad thing to disclose to this "international company"? Aside from the Peace Corps and some international aid/relief organizations, there are very rarely any negative results from prior honorable military service.
Are the people in this "company" anti-American or upset with the U.S. Army? If so, why? And finally, if you are ashamed to have been associated with the U.S. Army, as your posting indicates, then why are you asking Army and other DoD people for advice on how to hide your military service from this "international company"? You say you are ashamed to have been one of us, yet then you ask us for help?
Are the people in this "company" anti-American or upset with the U.S. Army? If so, why? And finally, if you are ashamed to have been associated with the U.S. Army, as your posting indicates, then why are you asking Army and other DoD people for advice on how to hide your military service from this "international company"? You say you are ashamed to have been one of us, yet then you ask us for help?
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There’s more to the story... Thats all I gotta say. Maybe the mistake was them letting you in rather than you joining yourself... Js
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