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For those who are unit commanders what other actions are associated with that failure for a soldier to get a less than honorable discharge for PT failure?
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I am currently in the process of chaptering one of my soldeirs for a pt failure. He has met the standard in all other areas with the exception of pt. while I do not think it would be beneficial to keep him in I certainly do not think that he has.warranted a Black mark on his record for civilian life. that would be more in line for those individuals chaptered for failures of character such as the sharp cases and the drug test failures.
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yep i used that way out back in 2010 when they first started doing it. (fort polk)
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Let me say this. I was one of the one that go the boot due not being in weight standards or Body Fat percent. I got out of the Navy with 7 year 8 months in. I was given an RE-3T rating on my discharge which meant I could have come back if I got within standards. The reason I got out was the day a First Class that volunteered to be a incharge of the mando commandos called us a bunch of lazy, unhealthy pieces of shit, this was after months of being belittled and shit on by this guy. Background I was in better shape than him, I was working out 8 to 10 times a week running 3 to 5 miles every other day and lifting weights the other days. The only reason he volunteered was he was trying to get bullets for his evals to become an E-7. I turned to him and cussed him out up one side and down the other, my senior chief walked in as I was finishing chew on him like bad chew toy and my Senior said I can't do that. I explained to him what was going on and officially told my Senior to start processing me out. I was in standards the day this happened a week later I did not make weight or BFM, because of this incident, fought hard to get in shape stay in shape only to have in ruined by some piss ant that was willing to step on anyone throat to better himself rank wise. I for one would like to see anyone get a dishonorable discharge and if anyone thinks and they don't know what it is like or they cannot figure out why someone cannot pass, then you cannot have an opinion because you have never been there.
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Don't know what happened afterwards "The Rest of the Story". I only know my Part. CTA3 (Frocked so more like a CTASN wearing a CTA3 Uniform) Was gundecking (Falsifying PT Records, He couldn't pass). He was working at Naval Research Lab an Affiliate of Commander Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command. I was Master at Arms to Chief of Staff. He was Admirals Masted (Article 15). Admiral bumped him down two to CTASA stripped him of his Rate (MOS) "I don't need any non-rates we are a technical staff" gave him orders to a Carrier as an undesignated Seaman Apprentice Deckhand.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
If I remember right I did 4 during my Tenure, My Primary Function was more in charge of Ceremonies but of the 4, 2 got of with the most awesome butt chewing I have ever seen and 2 got the whole enchilada.
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Let me tell you idiots that think that being big and tough is what it takes to run the military, I am here to set your small minds to rest. Not everyone is sent into a combat situation and some that are sent into combat situations should not be carrying a weapon. No one should have their lives altered because they couldn't run fast enough, or climb high enough nor do 100 push ups! So if you think a real soldier is a man that is strong then think again strong men fail as well.
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CSM Mike Maynard
Voted you down because you called folks that don't think like you idiots. That's not productive in persuading folks to understand your point of view.
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