Posted on Jan 31, 2017
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I'm in National Guard. Past few drills I been asking my 1SG regarding conditional releases. I wanna go to active duty. however he is keep telling me that commander gonna Denied any request no matter what. I have lot of personal problems so I'm trying to go active duty so badly. I'm wondering is it ok to use Open door policy , ?
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I would inform your chain, go to your line supervisor and inform them that you want to use the open door policy. You may need to disclose some information as to why just so the Commander knows what it is you want to discuss and can be prepared for the discussion.
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MCPO Roger Collins
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If you do, be sure you have facts at hand supporting the reason for the visit. My advice is not to do it unless a last resort. There will be consequences, no different than in private industry.
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try using your commands carrier counsellor, its their job to get you into a position that would benefit the army ac/rc/ng, army needs come before unit needs, this might help, but don't back door your co ask for a visit discuss your issues and your plans, but understand what issues you have now may not be mitigated elsewhere, good luck
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SPC Erich Guenther
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Agree with what others have said. Proper way to do this is ask your 1SG if it is OK with him that you talk to the CO Directly on this matter (he should say he doesn't care). Have to tell you though higher than the CO, they are going to back him on unit manning issues because he is rated on it. I think I would also ask what the units policy is on transfer to Active Duty. If they say x amount of years, they can do that and it is reasonable. If they say your entire 6 year enlistment..........you should take that all the way to the State AG because that is BS. When I was in the NG in 1980s they had a rule of waiting for you to be out of AIT for 2 years before you can submit a 368. I heard that rule is still around for some units.
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SFC J Fullerton
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Yes, your unit commander should have an open door policy. The 1SG is not the approving authority for conditional releases. Neither is your company commander for that matter, but he must endorse your request for it to be considered by the approving authority. Get your ducks in a row first by seeing an Army Recruiter and getting a DD368 Request for Conditional Release for the Regular Army. Has to be signed by a recruiter. Then inform your NCO support channel that you would like to see the commander under the open door policy in reference to submitting the request for release to go Active Army. That will be your opportunity to explain your hardship so that you can try to get his or her endorsement and the release pushed up the chain of command to the approving authority. For most state ARNG's, that is the State Adjutant General.
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SFC J Fullerton
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Just to add. You don't necessarily have to give a reason why you wish to see the commander on the open door policy. However, when you have taken an issue to your senior NCO leadership and they are not authorized to, able to, or otherwise capable of a resolution, then you have the right to use the open door to the commander. If you have already brought this to your 1SG's attention, then he is aware but unable to provide resolution. Your reason for using the open door is pretty obvious. Especially when you have an official DD form requiring his signature for a personnel action request. Bottom line, as a courtesy is best take your issue to your senior NCO leadership first, then commanders open door as a last resort. If you have done that already, then you are good to go.
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Tell them you are going to use it. They can't stop you (not supposed to, anyway).
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