Posted on Feb 2, 2016
How common is it for a someone in the Marines and Army to not have at least a secret clearance?
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I am asking simply because I was reviewing some documents and dozens of folks identified as AD, Res and Guard with ranks up to E7 indicated they did not have a clearance. On the AF side, we won't even give you access to NIPR without at least a secret (mil) or favorable (Civ).
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when I was in, I was given a Secret Clearance when I was F.A.P.'d out to the U-Drive section of Base Motors. This was because their were a few times I had to Drive for Visiting Generals and I might over hear something deemed Secret or higher while driving for them. It is not completely M.O.S. Specific though it is a if necessary thing. It is given to those that they deem may come in contact or over hear Secret or above information or materials. BUT all Military Personal do get the confidential security clearance. after I E.A.S'd it was taken away, but it did make it very easy for me to get a new Secret Clearance when I was working Security at a Government contracted Aerospace Company. There I learned that just because someone has a Secret, TS or above Clearance (There are many Levels of TS) if it was deemed you do not have a need to know about a certain subject or Project you were not given access to the project area or information regardless of clearance level.
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LCpl Steve Smith
I forgot to mention that when I was given a Clearance on Active duty, S1 did all the paperwork and I didn't even know I had it till I was told I did lol. For those that are looking to work for a government contracted company, You will have to answer a lot of questions in paperwork to fill out. So be Prepared to answer so some Family history, neighbors and friends history ect... Now a TS Clearance there are a lot more personal history questions and once you get a TS Clearance there will be times you will have to get ok'd for Vacations out of country ( depends on a lot of things ).
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LCpl Steve Smith
I did the background packet for secret too, but yes for TS it is more in depth, and yes they do make Random Contact with your friends, family and whoever else they feel they need to ask questions concerning you and your character. Oh and another note They will check your finances to make sure you are not in to far of dept.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
Nothing like Air Force overkill? "Need access to an Unclassified system? You'd better have a Secret clearance!!!" :)
Nothing like Air Force overkill? "Need access to an Unclassified system? You'd better have a Secret clearance!!!" :)
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PO1 John Miller
PO1 Andrew Gardiner
Now that I think about it, there ARE Airmen working at the base gym.
Now that I think about it, there ARE Airmen working at the base gym.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
Our services airmen (the basketball passer-outers) do far more than just the gym. Billeting, mortuary affairs, gyms, DFACs, protocol, honor guards just off the top of my head.
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PO1 John Miller
TSgt Joshua Copeland
Yeah but we're still going to tease the Air Force for having a military billet that hands out basket balls! :)
PO1 Andrew Gardiner
Yeah but we're still going to tease the Air Force for having a military billet that hands out basket balls! :)
PO1 Andrew Gardiner
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PO1 John Miller - Yeomen... Answers phone calls and responds to emails all day.
Also, let's combione our RANK and our RATING to make a RATE. We need to be able to confuse people. In the Air Force, we have a rank (add one to number of stripes to get pay grade for enlisted) and an occupational badge, which is a clusterfuck of black blobs to identify what our job is.
Also, let's combione our RANK and our RATING to make a RATE. We need to be able to confuse people. In the Air Force, we have a rank (add one to number of stripes to get pay grade for enlisted) and an occupational badge, which is a clusterfuck of black blobs to identify what our job is.
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I think in the Army & Marines security clearances are MOS specific whereas the Air Force requires all Airmen to have at least a Confidential.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland It is very common. Only certain MOSes and duty positions require a security clearance. If you are not in one of them the Army will not pay to get you a clearance.
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I got a felony when I was 17 but case was sealed and expunged after I did my community service and paid restitution, I am 20 now and I have already been through meps and I have signed my contract as 25N and I ship out to basic in June , will the fbi investigator find out about my juvenile record or am I good ? I didn’t tell them at meps cause the recruiter and station commander told me to lie about it , but I want to hear from someone else
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I'd bet its like the Navy and very few actually have a secret clearance. Us ET's and CT's had Secret and Im not even sure every ET in my division had Secret. Frequencies of Radar gets secret, IFF and CIC are all secret areas, but after that I'm guessing a very large part of my ship didn't have even confidential.
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MCPO Roger Collins
Your guesser is working well, that is probably accurate with the possible exception of some specialized craft.
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I was assigned Security Clerk as a collateral duty on board ship. Every Chief and Officer had a Secret or above. Most E-6 and below had at least a Secret, except for Deck Division, most of Engineering and Supply. I wish e-QIP had been around then. At least i was able to talk them into sending me to SSO school.
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Not that common but it is possible for lower enlisted E-1-E-5 to possibly get away without having a secret clearance, but E-6-E-9 more than likely have that to be the least of clearances.
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I got a felony when I was 17 but case was sealed and expunged after I did my community service and paid restitution, I am 20 now and I have already been through meps and I have signed my contract as 25N and I ship out to basic in June , will the fbi investigator find out about my juvenile record or am I good ? I didn’t tell them at meps cause the recruiter and station commander told me to lie about it , but I want to hear from someone else
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When you are being considered for a clearance you may not even know it. I certainly didn’t. I saw that it was completed 12/6/1973 --- but not until I got a DD-214 in 1977.
Also when I was a lieutenant some NIS guy came around and asked me about another lieutenant in my unit. I guess he was getting a top secret clearance or something.
Walt
Also when I was a lieutenant some NIS guy came around and asked me about another lieutenant in my unit. I guess he was getting a top secret clearance or something.
Walt
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
Now you definitely know since you have to fill out a SF86 or the digital version in eQIP.
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Capt Walter Miller
Really! Thanks!
That probably came about with the Freedom of Information thing.
Walt
That probably came about with the Freedom of Information thing.
Walt
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I had a secret clearance out of boot camp. I often think that is why I didn't get set back a phase. Lord knows the DI's would threaten that constantly.
I was already slotted into some follow on schools. That said, I think few junior enlisted, especially in the combat arms, have clearances.
Walt
I was already slotted into some follow on schools. That said, I think few junior enlisted, especially in the combat arms, have clearances.
Walt
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Capt Walter Miller
In my platoon we started with 70 and graduated 61. But we had 25 pick-ups. Only 36 of the original recruits graduated with the platoon.
MCRD PISC Plt. 1005 graduated 2/11/74.
MCRD PISC Plt. 1005 graduated 2/11/74.
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MOS dependent and a matter of rank.
That said, I was a lower enlisted Army grunt, one who generally does not need such a clearance, but I received one. The testing unit I was in--I suspect--required more individuals with such clearances. That's the only reason I can think of as to why, one day out of the blue, I had Secret clearance.
That said, I was a lower enlisted Army grunt, one who generally does not need such a clearance, but I received one. The testing unit I was in--I suspect--required more individuals with such clearances. That's the only reason I can think of as to why, one day out of the blue, I had Secret clearance.
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SP5 Joel O'Brien
While I've been out since 1976, I believe location has a lot to do with the level of clearance, at least sometimes. I was in West Berlin and had a 'Secret' and as far as I could tell, that had nothing to do with my MOS. My roomie, an AF guy, had worked in teletype repair before his assignment to Berlin but was not allowed to visit the East because of his former assignment. So, go figure.
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