Posted on Jul 5, 2016
How could I have handled a Soldier displaying gang affiliation on social media better?
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I came across a soldier who displayed gang affiliation on his Facebook page. Throwing up gang signs, flashing colors, etc. I messaged him on June 23rd and advised him that gang affiliation is illegal to service members, and that he should remove the posts and the pictures. On July 4th, I happened across the message I sent and noticed that he read it almost immediately after I sent it (time stamps were the same),but he did not reply, so I checked the profile to see if they had been taken down. They had not. I sought counsel with two DS (that were mutual friends) and was told to contact CID. So I filed a report with the MPIs, and provided them with the evidence. Did I handle this the right way? Or is there another way I should have handled it?
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Apparently CID handled it. If they need you they will reach ut and touch you
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No clue. I didn't serve in the PC Military of today! 82-86. They are outlawing full sleeve tats? Or all tats that show? We had dorm rats and could smoke in our rooms. People in today's military would faint if they knew what we did back then.
I guess what I'm getting at is I'm no judge of what you did.
I guess what I'm getting at is I'm no judge of what you did.
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You were in a very difficult situation. Some gang members join the military for the training to take back to the streets. If my memory is correct, there was a Lt. Comdr. (I think a pilot), stationed at Lemoore NAS...he was also a member of an outlaw biker gang involved in the sale of drugs. This soldier needed a severe intervention.
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You can know that you did what you could should this person leave the Army and then shoot some police officers...
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I've had a few true gang members who I've worked with over the years. And in almost every case they turned out to be great Soldiers who were thankful for the oppratunity to change their lives. If they talked about it, it was a story of how you can turn your life around and about making choices. Those guys are loyal and great leaders. I respect them. The problems are the wantabes. This kids don't understand why people join the gangs or what being in a gang means. They thinks it's a social choice and not about survival. As a team we would call mom and dad. Introducing them to real gang members work. If they don't get it turn them in to MPs, CID, etc. I had a suburban kid claim MS13. He got caught doing some stupid stuff. We asked if he was sure, he said he was MS13. So he got turned over to CID. He wasn't. He got chaptered out.
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Was he in your unit? Because if he wasn't and you were just trolling seems like U might have been wasting your time. Freedom of speech goes pretty far in America and there's no way U can prove this guy is actually in a gang... Seen plenty of people throw up gang signs jokingly for photos etc
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You're absolutely right Chief. However, dozens of pictures displaying gang signs and the colors to match is more than just someone screwing around thinking that they're funny.
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Were you facebook stalking or had he sent you a friend request? If no friend request then I would question why you were on that soldiers page? If a request was made then I say you were good.
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He popped up on the "People You May Know" list since he had a couple mutual friends (some DS I used to work with). So I checked his page to see if it was someone I actually did know.
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Do Army personnel not take people out behind the woodshed anymore? Or take him on a run until he pukes? I mean there are an ass ton of tools at your disposal. Pushing it off on someone else is kind of sad. 'OMG Gang so scared" Is that how they train soldiers these days?
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THe propensity for people to push paperwork instead of good old fashioned individual training is fucking sad. Get involved with your people. Do not be un reachable. For God's sake don't be a busy body on facebook. Like let me just go QQ to every dumbass faker that I see on facebook.
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