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MAJ Hugh Blanchard
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Well, if a soldier or NCO actually hates someone just because they hold a commissioned rank, then that person needs to leave the armed forces. Every single enlisted service member or NCO is under the command of an officer, from a Platoon Leader on up through a General. As a former enlisted soldier and NCO, I can understand why someone might dislike a particular individual officer. But any soldier or NCO who hates ANY officer just because of their rank, they need to leave.
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Hugh
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SSG John Jensen
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I only 'hate' the ones who've earned it, there's a lot that I like ( mostly mustangs)
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COL Charles Williams
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Not much you can do. It is part of the territory. Just do your best, focus our your mission and your troops, and demonstrate your abilities and character by your actions; actions not words. The military, our military, the most powerful military in this world has been working well for 241 years with enlisted troops, noncommissioned officers and officers. Read the senerity prayer. Focus on things you can control.

http://www.lords-prayer-words.com/famous_prayers/god_grant_me_the_serenity.html
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SFC George Smith
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the word Hate as applied in the aspect is either a Loss of respect BY the NCO for the Officer or the Officer has done some thing to lose His credibility and thus respect of the NCO...

The Only Hatred I ever saw, was towards a Pompous arrogant, fast tracking, Ring knocking Lt. Col. on His way to the top, by walking on the backs of every officer and NCO who served Under Him...
But eventually with little or no help will self destruct... :-)
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MAJ Hugh Blanchard
MAJ Hugh Blanchard
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Seen the same, but he was an O-6....didn't need my dislike to do himself in..thank heavens...
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
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Promote them.
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PV2 Daniel Sullivan
PV2 Daniel Sullivan
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Please forgive me, Sir, but wouldn't that be counter-intuitive?
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
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PV2 Daniel Sullivan - If you believe there is a problem, you will never understand it or solve it by standing on the sidelines and botching. You must get into the middle of it, experience it, and work to change it. So, Soldiers and young NCOs who purport to despise Officers should be pushed even harder to accomplish those things that will get them promoted. Once they achieve the necessary experience, skills, and position where they must deal with Officers on a constant basis, they will be in the place to affect change.
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
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*bitching
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PV2 Daniel Sullivan
PV2 Daniel Sullivan
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A. - I agree whole heartedly, sir :) Affecting change and setting it in motion is much more effective than someone looking down their nose at it, and pretending it doesn't exist, or refuses to step up and be part of the solution. There is that saying of "Be the change that you wish to see in the world," and I believed then, and I still firmly believe to this day, that regardless of environment someone is in, even the lowest person is capable of affecting great change. One simply has to take the first step. The brighter someone's success, the more people that will stop, learn by example, and follow suit. After all, inventing the wheel was the hardest part, now that's done, all that is needed is to replicate the process and simply follow the same process for success. There is also another saying that when someone takes the first step, the universe conspires to help us succeed. The main issue is that too many people are either too afraid of failure, or they are afraid of taking the leap. Nobody ever promised things would be easy, just that the effort would be worth it.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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There are those NCO's who will say I won't salute 2LT's. As a WO I found that disheartening, one you are challenging that 2lt from jump street, you put them in a no win situation. Few 2lt's want to be the bad guy on day one because some NCO took upon themselves to write a new policy. I often use the Creed of the Non Commissioned Officer (Army Version) and ask the NCO to make me understand what part of their ideal is part of the Creed. When they can't I polite remind them that NCO's who were far better than either of us ever were came up with this as an Ideal we should strive for. Hopefully this is all that needs to be done. As a WO who walked in their shoes I can relate, but as a fellow officer, I have to give that young LT a chance. I made sure my soldiers saw me salute the 2lt when ever possible so they know if I am doing it, they better be doing it as well. Mostly this enough to put this to bed.
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CPT Jenn Dory
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I never encountered an NCO/soldier who truly hated officers -- as much as I did encounter officers who assumed that they would be respected and admired by their soldiers just for being an officer. What you need to remember when you earn your commission is that you have the privilege of leading an amazing group of men (and women), and that they rely upon you to inspire, motivate, protect, advocate for, and hold them accountable for what they need to do to survive in combat. You don't get to assume they trust you enough to tell you everything you need to know to be successful -- you have to earn that, and sometimes that comes from hearing unpleasant and unpopular feedback, and having the integrity to humble yourself in front of your soldiers as a result. Ask trusted NCOs for their guidance when you're planning an event, or training, as sure as anything they've done a far sight more of it than you. Be AUTHENTIC in your leadership, which sometimes means enlisting the help of your soldiers beforehand to be sure you have it straight; admit when you don't know. Have a sense of humor. You won't always have the answer, but do your best to continue to learn and grow, and expect that from your soldiers and NCOs. Understand the perspective of your soldiers -- what they are concerned about, their life challenges, their struggles and joys (as they will be very different from yours most of the time), and be there for them in and through all of that, and then, and only then, will they move mountains for you.

My first 1SG was probably the most influential person in my career, and he helped me understand that NCOs truly are the most valuable asset in a unit (assuming you have good ones -- if you don't, performance manage them, and be patient. At some point either you or they will PCS. That goes for up the chain of command, too, and you'll learn from people in both directions).

You'll know you've succeeded when they call you "my LT".
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CPT Larry Hudson
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NCO's did not get their rank by hating officers. Soldiers who hate officers usually also hate NCO's. As a young officer, rely upon the advice of experience. Team work essential decisions build trust and respect. By all means, do not become a good old boy.
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Capt Al Parker
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Remember to show NO disrespect and suck it up. There are idiots in all ranks, they wear their rank on their skivees.
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1LT William Clardy
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For that (thankfully small) minority who stereotype and openly express disdain for officers, my approach has always been to focus on doing my duty as professionally as practical.

If some poor sod still insists on bragging about how he considers all officers to be ____, then I would quietly take him aside and explain that I expect him to demonstrate proper military etiquette regarding my rank -- with an explicit caveat that I would hope, sometime in the next few weeks or months, he would have reason to acknowledge that his stereotype may not be as true as he seems to think it is.
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