Posted on Jan 2, 2014
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CPL Paul B. being a veteran I enjoy my rights especially freedom of speech. If I wish to criticize our government or governmental personnel I will. That's one of the thigs I served for.
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If I remember correctly, the oath I took was to obey the President's orders, NOT to disagree, like, respect, or to speak my opinion of him. If I were in uniform, I do believe I might tone down my opinion slightly only because I might feel a bit unconfortable because I would not want my opinion to reflect on any branch of the service that others might thing is a representation or opinion of that branch because of the uniform I am wearing.
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We are members of the United States Armed services. POTUS is our Commander In Chief. With that in mind, somehow, some way, we have forgotten that he is just a citizen of the United States. No more no less that means his behavior and actions are subject to our critique. In fact as an elected official in this republic he is first and foremost subject to the laws that govern his office. Two he is accountable for his actions to the people that elect him. He is accountable via, the functions of the election, and he is accountable to the oversight critique / criticism of the people that elected him. Have we forgotten that? Yes. We are service members in the military that means that we are professional and courteous, but, first and foremost we are Citizens of this Republic. I keep seeing the argument that you would not say that too or about your Commander, SNCO ext. WRONG!!!! They are governed by regulations just like POTUS is constrained by the Constitution, If you do not have the integrity to speak up when a SM (no matter the rank) violates a regulation you have no right to wear that uniform, or when the President or an another elected official violates exceeds office or you just simply philosophically do not agree with what they are doing you just don't have the right to be professional, you are required to make your voice heard. You know what? If that individual in whatever office they occupy, in or out of the service if they don't like it. here is a great quote for them
If he / she "can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen." Harry S Truman
If he / she "can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen." Harry S Truman
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Honestly, the guy never stood a chance from the jump. No matter what he does there is always someone criticising. Funny though......he got elected twice. I hope everyone who had an opinion on this voted :) Now.....to the issue at hand. I respect him as my commander in chief as well as the POTUS but even if I didnt like anything about him I dont feel its right to openly criticize him. And what message are you showing to your Soldiers......that its ok degrade and criticize your leadership? Its very unprofessional. If you're currently military.....guess what......hes your boss. Dont bite the hands that feed you.
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SFC Ian Lumgair
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" Nuff said.
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As the commander in chief, the president is the supreme commander to the military. No matter what actions he or she takes, it is not for a service member to judge, however everyone is entitled to their own opinion. As a member of our armed forces, all personnel much obey the orders of those appointed over them and sustain a high level of professionalism at all times.
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SFC Ian Lumgair
really? "no matter what actions he or she takes," You could not be more wrong. You need to reread your oath of office.
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If you're in uniform you are way out of line. If you're a veteran, well you've earned that right to talk about whoever you want. Beterans don't fall under the UCMJ anymore, active duty/NG/and reserves do.
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As members of the military, we must remember to keep what we believe to ourselves, and not conduct ourselves in a manner contrary to the values that we espouse. Why we may not agree with the person, we respect the office, and serve flawlessly. We serve to protect the Constitution of the United States and the president.
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During my career in the miltary, i did not know one soldiers political preference, we all knew which presidents supported and cared about the military and which ones despised the military and did nothing for us. but even the ones that shit on the military got the respect due to their position as commander in chief. my own opinion is while your on active duty, keep your opinions to your self about the POTUS. For one, if you say the wrong thing around the wrong people, your career will come to a end (seen it happen to AF E-7 at clinton rally, just made comment over heard by secret service). just express your opinion on election day. now once you retire and are not under the command of the POTUS anymore, you can say what ever you want other then threats. I didnt have time to worry about the POTUS because i wasnt going to change anything anyways, leave politics out of your military life while on active duty.
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SGT (verity to see) your comment is very valid, I agree with the message. On a side note...If you study history you will discover that there were numerous Presidents who were not liked by most military members from E-1 to Four Star General level...ironically and sadly with good reason.
When Presidents do not look out for the best interest of the country, the military and those who have sworn to uphold the laws see that the President intentionally or unintentionally disrespecting and or not following the laws or the spirit of the law or they just being inconsiderate it becomes challenging to respect such a person.
Leadership is earned not demanded...as the laws are today you are correct Active Duty personnel do not have the privilege to speak out against the President... I am with you 100 per cent about following the rules...
On a side note it would be nice if the politicians would follow the laws and rules as well...
When Presidents do not look out for the best interest of the country, the military and those who have sworn to uphold the laws see that the President intentionally or unintentionally disrespecting and or not following the laws or the spirit of the law or they just being inconsiderate it becomes challenging to respect such a person.
Leadership is earned not demanded...as the laws are today you are correct Active Duty personnel do not have the privilege to speak out against the President... I am with you 100 per cent about following the rules...
On a side note it would be nice if the politicians would follow the laws and rules as well...
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What we fail to realize, is why we have different branches of government, no one man has all the power. While he is the President, we have Congress to help make right decisions. Like I was always taught, don"t bring a complaint without a solution, the President suppose to have people to help, but it seems, He is on his own. Even our Leaders in the military, don"t always make the best decision, and they have people to consult. It"s not good for morale to focus on these things say what needs to be said and move on.
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